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And precisely what we called yesterday the “greatest monologue in world history” can easily be misunderstood if someone were to consult in a superficial and not too accurate manner what had, for example, to be said in connection with the similar passage in the Matthew Gospel in the lectures I gave in Bern.[^1] Indeed, an objection made from such a standpoint would really in a deeper logical sense be the same as if the statement were made that a man once stood on this platform and on his left was a bouquet of roses. Then another statement would be made that a man once stood on this platform and on his right was a bouquet of roses, and a man who had not been present proceeded to object, saying that there must be a mistake since one time the bouquet of roses was on the right and the other time on the left. It all depends on where the observer in question was standing, for both statements can be correct. So it is with the Gospels, where we are not concerned simply with an abstract biography of Christ Jesus, but with a rich world of external and occult facts that are presented in them.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Christ's Inner Monologue and the Mystery of Golgotha","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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So könnte gerade das, was gestern als der «welthistorisch größte Monolog » angegeben worden ist, leicht mißverstanden werden, wenn irgend jemand nicht genau, sondern etwas oberflächlich zu Rate ziehen wollte, was zum Beispiel in Anlehnung an das Matthäus-Evangelium über die ähnliche Stelle gesagt werden muß und auch damals bei den Vorträgen in Bern gesagt worden ist. Und zwar wäre ein Einwand, der etwa von einem solchen Gesichtspunkt aus gemacht würde, im tieferen logischen Sinne eigentlich doch dasselbe, wie wenn es eine Mitteilung gäbe: Hier auf diesem Podium stand einmal ein Mensch, und zu seiner Linken stand ein Rosenbukett - und ein andermal würde man lesen: Hier auf diesem Podium stand einmal ein Mensch, und zu seiner Rechten stand ein Rosenbukett -, und wenn jemand, der nicht daran beteiligt gewesen wäre, dann sagen würde: Das stimmt nicht; denn das eine Mal stand das Rosenbukett rechts, und das andere Mal stand es links. Es kommt eben darauf an, wo der betreffende Beobachter gestanden hat; dann sind beide Sätze richtig. So muß man die Evangelien nehmen. Wir haben es eben nicht zu tun mit einer abstrakten Biographie des Christus Jesus, sondern mit einer reichen Welt von äußeren sowohl wie okkulten Tatsachen, die hier dargestellt sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":278,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/139/1912-09-21/p003"}],"english":["GA 139/1912-09-21/p003"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":278,"en_words":284,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.13,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7419,"original_word_count":6585,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Conrad Mainzer","identified_edition":"AP1986","book_title":"The Gospel of St. Mark","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA139/English/AP1986/19120921p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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