{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 139/1912-09-21/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"If only our contemporaries were not so prone to skim thoughtlessly over so much that is of value! It is so easy to skim lightly over a passage in Nietzsche that can profoundly move us, take possession of us and shake our souls. The passage occurs in his posthumous work *Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks*, where he describes Thales, Anaximander, Heraclitus, Parmenides, Anaxagoras and Empedocles. Right at the beginning of this work there is a passage where, if we truly enter into it, we can see that Nietzsche perceived something of what these first lonely Greek thinkers experienced in their souls. Look up the passage in Nietzsche where he says, “How must it have been with the souls of those heroes of philosophy who had to make the transition from the period of living vision (of which Nietzsche knew nothing but that he was able to sense) to an age when what had formerly been alive in their souls was superseded by dry, abstract, prosaic concepts; when ‘being,’ that cold, abstract, prosaic notion, appeared, as a ‘concept,’ replacing the full aliveness of clairvoyant consciousness?” And Neitzsche feels, “It is as if our blood would freeze in our veins when we cross over from the realm of life into the world of concepts in Thales or Heraclitus who use such concepts as ‘being’ and ‘becoming,’ so that we pass from the warm realm of becoming over into the icy region of ‘concepts.’ ”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Christ's Inner Monologue and the Mystery of Golgotha","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Über eine Stelle bei Nietzsche, die einen tief erfassen, ergreifen, erschüttern kann, liest man leicht heute hinweg. Sie steht in der nachgelassenen Schrift «Die Philosophie im tragischen Zeitalter der Griechen», worin er Thales, Anaximander, Heraklit, Parmenides, Anaxagoras und Empedokles schildert. Da ist eine Stelle gleich im Anfange - man muß sie nachfühlen -, da hat Nietzsche etwas von dem empfunden, was in den Seelen dieser ersten griechischen einsamen Denker erlebt worden war. Lesen Sie die Stelle bei Nietzsche nach, wo er sagt: Wie mag es gewesen sein in den Seelen dieser philosophischen Heroengestalten, welche den Übergang finden mußten aus der Zeit des lebendigen Anschauens - von dem auch er nichts mehr wußte, das er aber ahnte -, als die alte Lebendigkeit in den Seelen abgelöst wurde durch die abstrakten, trockenen, nüchternen Begriffe, wo das «Sein», dieses nüchterne, trockene, abstrakte, kalte Sein als Begriff trat an die Stelle der vollen Lebendigkeit, die das hellseherische Bewußtsein hatte? Und Nietzsche empfindet: Es ist, wie wenn das Blut einem erstarrte, wenn man übergeht aus der Welt der Lebendigkeit in die Welt der Begriffe bei Thales oder Heraklit, wenn diese Leute Begriffe von «Sein» und «Werden» brauchen, so daß man sich aus dem warmen Werden in die Eisregion der Begriffe versetzt fühlt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":221,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/139/1912-09-21/p027"}],"english":["GA 139/1912-09-21/p025"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":221,"en_words":245,"ratio":1.11,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.13,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7419,"original_word_count":6585,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Conrad Mainzer","identified_edition":"AP1986","book_title":"The Gospel of St. Mark","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA139/English/AP1986/19120921p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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