{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 140/1913-05-13/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us take the extreme case of a person who, while on earth, has utterly denied the spirit both in his thoughts and in his feelings. There are many theoretical materialists who deny the spirit and who nevertheless are in some way through their feelings connected with the spiritual world. In reality there are hardly any people who totally deny the spiritual world so that the fearful circumstances I am about to describe never quite come into effect. Let us assume that two such persons die who knew one another well on earth. After death they will dwell within the same space but will be completely unaware of one another because after death a feeling for the spirit corresponds, let us say, to what here are our eyes. Without eyes, no light; without a feeling for the spiritual, no perception of the super-sensible world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"16. Life After Death","site_heading":null,"date":"1913-05-13","location":null,"word_count":144,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/140/1913-05-13/p008","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"René M. Querido","identified_edition":"AP1968","book_title":"Life Between Death and Rebirth","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA140/English/AP1968/19130513p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Nun gibt es zwar viele theoretische Materialisten, die die geistige Welt leugnen, die aber doch mit ihren Empfindungen irgendwie mit der geistigen Welt zusammenhängen. Solche Menschen, die ganz und gar die geistige Welt verleugnen, gibt es also in Wirklichkeit kaum, und das Furchtbare, was jetzt beschrieben werden soll, tritt daher nie so ganz ein. Nehmen wir an, zwei solcher Menschen sterben, die sich hier auf Erden gut gekannt haben. Dann werden sie nach dem Tode in demselben Raum darinnen sein, aber nichts voneinander wissen, denn für die Welt nach dem Tode ist die Empfindung für das Geistige entsprechend dem, was hier zum Beispiel die Augen sind. Ohne Augen kein Licht — ohne Empfindung für das Spirituelle keine Wahrnehmung der geistigen Welt. Sogar ein noch schrecklicheres Schicksal als das Nichtwahrnehmen der geistigen Welt würde solchen Menschen bevorstehen, denn da die Seelen, die durch die Pforte des Todes gehen, selber geistiger Natur sind, würde eine solche Seele überhaupt nichts von Menschenseelen wahrnehmen können; wie ein gähnender Abgrund würde es sich um solche Menschenseelen ausbreiten. Man könnte fragen: Was nimmt ein solcher Mensch nach dem Tode denn überhaupt wahr? Auch nicht sich selbst, so wie er nach dem Tode ist, kann er wahrnehmen, denn das klare Selbstbewußtsein fehlt ihm. Was ihm noch bleibt, das wird sich uns aus dem Folgenden ergeben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":326,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/140/1913-05-13/p007"}],"english":["GA 140/1913-05-13/p007","GA 140/1913-05-13/p008","GA 140/1913-05-13/p009"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":326,"en_words":315,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":2207,"original_word_count":2277,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"René M. 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