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There is often an increasing dislike of Anthroposophy in such a family, so that life becomes really difficult because of the attitude of these good friends and dear relations. Now, if such souls are investigated clairvoyantly, it is often found to be the case that in their subconscious depths a profound longing for Anthroposophy is developing. Sometimes the relation who raises the strongest objection in reality longs subconsciously more intensely for Anthroposophy than does the member who attends all its meetings. But death lifts the veil from the subconsciousness and levels all these things out. It frequently occurs that a person may be dulled as regards what lies in his subconsciousness, where there may be a very strong yearning for Spiritual Science. By raging against it he deadens the longing of which he was not aware, but after death it will come out all the more strongly. Therefore we should not omit to read to those souls who in their lifetime fought against Anthroposophy, for indeed it often occurs that we can help those most of all.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Living Intercourse with the Dead Through Spiritual Science","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Ein sehr häufiger Fall ist der, daß ein Mitglied einer Familie zur Geisteswissenschaft herankommt. Ein Bruder oder ein Mann oder eine Frau, mit dem die Betreffenden verbunden sind, die werden immer antipathischer und antipathischer gesinnt gegen die Geisteswissenschaft, oftmals zornig und immer zorniger, wütig und immer wütiger, weil der Gatte oder der Bruder oder die Gattin zur Geisteswissenschaft gekommen sind. Es entwickelt sich dann oft viel Antipathie gegen die Geisteswissenschaft in einer solchen Familie, so daß es manche Menschen aus diesem Grunde schwierig haben, weil gute Freunde oder Verwandte oftmals sehr zornig und wütig werden. Wenn man solche Seelen untersucht, so hat man oftmals die Erkenntnis, daß in den unterbewußten Tiefen einer solchen Seele die tiefste Sehnsucht nach der Geisteswissenschaft sich entwickelt. Manchmal ist solch eine Seele sehnsüchtiger nach der Geisteswissenschaft als derjenige, der mit seinem Oberbewußtsein ein eifriger Besucher der geisteswissenschaftlichen Versammlungen ist. Aber der Tod hebt ja die Decke von dem Unterbewußtsein weg, der Tod gleicht solche Dinge in merkwürdiger Weise aus. Im Leben kommt es häufig vor, daß sich jemand betäubt gegen dasjenige, was im Unterbewußtsein ist, und die Menschen sind wirklich da, die eigentlich Sehnsucht, tiefste Sehnsucht hätten nach der Geisteswissenschaft, aber sie betäuben sich. Indem sie gegen die Geisteswissenschaft toben, betäuben sie ihre Sehnsucht und täuschen sich über sie hinweg. Da tritt aber nach dem Tode die Sehnsucht um so gewaltiger hervor. Und gerade oftmals bei solchen, die im Leben gegen die Geisteswissenschaft gewütet haben, stellt sich nach dem Tode die heftigste Sehnsucht nach ihr ein. Daher versäumen Sie es nicht, gerade gegenüber solchen Toten, die im Leben die Geisteswissenschaft bekämpft haben, das Vorlesen vorzunehmen! 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