{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 140/1913-10-10/p021","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"With the rightly developed clairvoyance it is easier to perceive the greater events, such as the passage of the human soul through death into Kamaloca and in its further ascent, than it is to see the particular experiences of a given soul: just as in the physical world it is easier to recognise what is regularly subject to the influences of the greater heavenly movements than what is in a sense spasmodically influenced by them. You can all reckon on the fact that the sun will rise tomorrow morning and set at night, but it is not easy to foresee what the weather may be, So it is with clairvoyance. The accounts we generally give in our descriptions of the spiritual worlds may be compared with the knowledge we have of the general course of the heavenly bodies. We can always reckon that these things will be fulfilled as described. But the separate events in life between death and rebirth are like the weather conditions on earth, which are, of course, subject to law, but are more difficult to recognise; for even on the earth itself one can hardly tell in one place what the weather will be in another. It is not easy here in Bergen to know w hat the weather in Berlin may be, although we know the relative positions of the sun and moon there. To follow up an individual life after death is more difficult, and demands a more special cultivation of the gift of clairvoyance than to follow the general course of the human soul. If the training be carried out aright, knowledge of the general conditions is acquired first, and the rest, which appears to be easier, comes much later—after much schooling. A man may have been able for a considerable time to see quite clearly as regards Kamaloca and Devachan and yet find it extremely difficult to read the time by the watch concealed in your pocket. The things of the physical world are most difficult of all to the clairvoyant training. It is exactly the reverse as regards acquiring knowledge of the higher worlds. A man makes mistakes here because there still exists a natural clairvoyance which is uncertain and subject to many errors. This may persist for a long time without giving the clairvoyant vision the outlook on the general conditions described by Anthroposophy, which to the trained clairvoyant comes more easily. These are the things of which I wished to speak to you today in respect of the spiritual world. Tomorrow we shall continue these observations and enter somewhat more deeply into them.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Living Intercourse with the Dead Through Spiritual Science","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Es könnte die Frage entstehen: Ja, warum schildert die geisteswissenschaftliche Literatur so im allgemeinen das, was so unmittelbar nach dem Tode in der geistigen Welt geschieht, was im Kamaloka, was im Geisterlande geschieht, und warum wird so wenig von einzelnen hellsichtigen Einblicken geschildert? Denn es könnte ja jemand leicht glauben, daß man einen einzelnen, bestimmten Toten nach dem Tode leichter beobachten könnte als dasjenige, was im allgemeinen geschildert wird. So ist es nicht. Und um anzudeuten, wie es ist, möchte ich einen Vergleich gebrauchen. Es ist dem richtig entwickelten Hellsehen leichter, die großen Verhältnisse zu überschauen — wie den Durchgang der Menschenseele durch den Tod, wie sie durch Kamaloka in das Devachan hinaufkommt -—, als irgendein einzelnes Erlebnis einer einzelnen Seele zu überschauen. Geradeso, wie es leichter ist, in der physischen Welt dasjenige zu erkennen, was etwa sozusagen unter dem Einflusse der großen Himmelsbewegungen steht, und schwieriger dasjenige, was in einer gewissen Weise unregelmäßig zu den großen Himmelsbewegungen steht. Nun wird jeder von Ihnen für den morgigen Tag leicht voraussagen können, daß die Sonne morgens aufgehen wird und abends wieder untergehen wird. Das wird jeder ungefähr wissen. Was morgen aber für Wetter sein wird, das wird schon weniger genau gewußt werden. So ist es mit dem Hellsehen auch. Die Verhältnisse, die wir gewöhnlich in den Schilderungen über die geistigen Welten geben, sind zu vergleichen mit dem Wissen über den allgemeinen Gang der Himmelskörper; die weiß man zuerst im hellseherischen Bewußtsein. Und man kann immer rechnen darauf, daß die Ereignisse sich im allgemeinen so vollziehen. Die einzelnen Ereignisse aber in dem Leben zwischen Tod und einer neuen Geburt sind wie die Wetterverhältnisse hier auf der Erde, die selbstverständlich auch gesetzmäßig sind, aber eben schwieriger zu erkennen auch auf der Erde selber; denn man kann ja nicht von jedem Orte wissen, was für ein Wetter an einem anderen Orte ist. So ist es eben nun einmal. Es ist schwierig, hier zu wissen, wie das Wetter in Berlin ist, nicht aber, wie dort die Sonne oder der Mond stehen. Es gehört eine besondere Ausbildung der hellsichtigen Gabe dazu, da es schwieriger ist, das einzelne Leben nach dem Tode zu verfolgen als den allgemeinen Gang der Menschenseele. Und auf dem richtigen Wege erwirbt man sich das Wissen von den allgemeinen Verhältnissen zuerst, und zuallerletzt erwirbt man sich, wenn es durch Schulung errungen wird, dasjenige, was ja am leichtesten scheint. Man kann lange schon sehr richtig sehen in bezug auf Kamaloka und Devachan und es doch außerordentlich schwierig haben, zu sehen, wieviel es auf der eigenen Uhr ist, die man in der Tasche hat. Die Dinge in der physischen Welt sind für die hellseherische Schulung die allerschwierigsten. Gerade das Umgekehrte ist im Erkennenlernen der höheren Welten der Fall. Irrtümern gibt man sich auf diesem Gebiete aus dem Grunde hin, weil ja auch noch ein natürliches Hellsehen vorhanden ist, und dieses zwar unsicher ist, mannigfachen Irrtümern unterworfen ist, aber es kann lange vorhanden sein, ohne daß man den hellsichtigen Blick für die allgemeinen Verhältnisse hat, die in der Geisteswissenschaft geschildert werden, die dem geschulten Hellseher leichter sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":519,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/140/1913-10-10/p021"},{"locus":"GA 140/1913-10-10/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Das sind die Dinge, die ich Ihnen heute in bezug auf die geistigen Welten schildern wollte. 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