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But it is what comes from the sun that enables the leaves to open again and the blossom to unfold out yonder in cosmic space, therefore, are the forces which cause the organs of the plant to fold up limply when they withdraw or unfold when they are active. What is brought about in the plant by cosmic forces is brought about in the human being by his own Ego and astral body. When does a human being allow his limbs to relax and his eyelids to close like the plant when it draws in its leaves and blossoms? When his Ego and astral body leave his bodily organism. What the sun does to the plant, the Ego and astral body do to the organs of the human being. 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A plant is bound to sleep when the sunlight withdraws; in respect of his Ego and astral body, however, man is independent of the sun and planets which are his real home, and for this reason he is able to sleep by day, even when the sun is shining. In his Ego and astral body man has emancipated himself from that with which he is really united—namely the forces of the sun and stars. Therefore it is not grotesque to say that what remains of man on the Earth and in its elements after death belongs to the Earth and to its forces; but the Ego and astral body belong to the forces of the Cosmos. After the death of the human being Ego and astral body return to those cosmic forces and pass through the life between death and rebirth within their spheres. During the period on Earth between birth and death, while the soul is living in a physical body, the life of soul which strictly belongs to the sun and the stars has no more to do with this physical body than time as such—which is in reality conditioned by the solar and stellar constellations—has to do with the watch and its mechanism of wheels. It is quite conceivable that if, instead of living on the Earth, we were born on some other planet, our soul would be adapted to a quite different planetary existence. The particular formation of our eyes and ears is not attributable to the soul but to the conditions prevailing on the Earth. All we do is to make use of these organs. If we make ourselves consciously aware of the fact that with our soul we belong to the world of the stars, we shall have taken a first step towards a real understanding of our relationships as human beings and our true human nature. This knowledge will help us to adopt the right attitude to our conditions of existence here on Earth. To establish even this more or less external relationship to our physical body or etheric body will give us a sense of security. We shall realise that we are not merely beings of the Earth but belong to the whole Universe, to the Macrocosm, that we live within the Macrocosm. 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Was ihr von der Sonne, aus dem Sternenraume zukommt während des Tages, das ist ihr entzogen. Was aber von der Sonne hereinwirkt, das macht, daß die zusammengefallenen Blätter sich wieder ausspreizen, daß die Blüte sich entfaltet. Draußen im Weltenraume sind also die Kräfte, welche die Organe der Pflanze entweder schlaff zusammenfallen lassen oder sie sich entfalten lassen, wenn sie wirken. Was da im Weltenraume ausgebreitet ist und bei der Pflanze die Glieder erschlaffen läßt, wenn es sich der Pflanze entzieht, das macht beim Menschen das eigene Ich mit dem Astralleib. Wann läßt der Mensch die Glieder sinken, wann läßt er die Augenlider sinken, wie bei der Pflanze, wenn sie Blätter und Blüten zusammenzieht? Wenn das Ich und der astralische Leib aus der menschlichen Wesenheit herausgehen. Was die Sonne bei der Pflanze macht, das bewirkt das Ich und der astralische Leib bei den Organen der menschlichen Natur. Daher können wir sagen: Der Pflanzenleib muß hinaufsehen zur Sonne, wie der Menschenleib zu dem eigenen Ich und Astralleib hinsehen und sie als das ansehen muß, was auf ihn denselben Eindruck macht wie die Sonne auf die Pflanze. Ist es Ihnen, wenn Sie das nur äußerlich bedenken, noch wunderbar, wenn uns nun die okkulte Untersuchung lehrt, daß tatsächlich das Ich und der astralische Leib aus dem Weltenraume, dem die Sonne angehört, herausgeboren sind und gar nicht der Erde angehören? Und nun wird Ihnen dieses nach den schon angestellten Betrachtungen auch nicht verwunderlich sein: Wenn die Menschen im Schlafe oder im Tode herausschreiten aus der Erde, dann leben sie die großen Weltenverhältnisse durch, dann sind sie dort. Die Pflanze ist eben noch gebunden an die Sonne und an die Kräfte, die im Raume sind. Das Ich und der astralische Leib des Menschen haben sich selbständig gemacht gegenüber den im Raume ausgebreiteten Kräften und gehen ihren eigenen Weg. Daher kann die Pflanze nur schlafen, wenn ihr wirklich das Sonnenlicht entzogen ist. Der Mensch ist in bezug auf sein Ich und seinen Astralleib unabhängig von dem, was seine Heimat ist, von Sonnen und Planeten, daher kann er auch bei Tage schlafen, wenn die Sonne scheint. Er hat sich in seinem Ich und Astralleib frei gemacht von dem, womit er aber eigentlich einerlei ist: mit den Sternen- und Sonnenkräften. Und nicht grotesk ist es, wenn wir sagen: So gehört also das, was nach dem Tode auf der Erde und in ihren Elementen zurückbleibt, der Erde und ihren Kräften an; das Ich und der Astralleib aber gehören den großen Weltenkräften an, gehen zu diesen Weltenkräften mit dem Tode des Menschen wieder zurück und durchleben innerhalb derselben das Leben zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt. Und während der Zeit zwischen Geburt und Tod, während die Seele hier in einem physischen Leibe eingefügt ist, hat das, was unser Seelenleben ist, was eigentlich zum Sonnenleben und zum Sternenleben gehört, mit diesem physischen Leibe nicht mehr zu tun, als die Zeit, die im Grunde genommen auch durch Sonnen- und Sternkonstellationen bedingt ist, mit der Uhr und ihrer Einrichtung in den Rädern zu tun hat. Es wäre durchaus denkbar, daß wir, wenn wir statt auf der Erde auf einem andern Planeten wohnten, mit unserer selben Seele ganz anderen Planetenverhältnissen angepaßt wären. Daß wir Augen haben, wie sie in dieser Weise gestaltet sind, daß wir solche Ohren haben, wie sie so gestaltet sind, rührt nicht von den Seelenverhältnissen her, sondern von dem, was Erdenverhältnisse, irdische Verhältnisse sind. Wir benutzen nur diese Organe. Uns mit diesem Bewußtsein zu durchdringen, daß wir mit unserm Seelengliede der Sternenwelt angehören, das gibt uns eben erst Aufschluß über unser wirkliches menschliches Verhältnis, über unsere wirkliche menschliche Wesenheit. Wenn wir das wissen, wissen wir uns auch in der richtigen Weise zu unsern Verhältnissen hier auf der Erde zu verhalten. Wenn man daher in einer solchen Weise des Menschen, man möchte sogar sagen, mehr oder weniger äußerliches Verhältnis zu seinem physischen Leibe oder Ätherleibe durchdringt, dann wird Sicherheit in den Menschen kommen. Er wird sich nicht mehr bloß als Erdenwesen wissen, sondern als Angehöriger der ganzen Welt, des ganzen Makrokosmos, als eine im Makrokosmos drinnen befindliche Wesenheit. Nur weil er hier an seinen Leib gebunden ist, ist er sich der Zusammengehörigkeit mit den Kräften des großen Weltenraumes nicht bewußt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":757,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/141/1912-12-03/p021"}],"beads":[{"from":[22,23],"to":[21],"confidence":"medium"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}