{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 144/1913-02-04/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It makes a terrifying impression to perceive how during certain periods of their lives between death and a new birth human souls have become servants of the evil spirits of illness and death, and have condemned themselves to this servitude. If one tries to trace back the lives of such persons to the time before they went through the Gate of Death, one always finds that during their life on the physical plane they were lacking in conscience, lacking in feelings of responsibility. A fixed law is evident here. The seer perceives how souls who were morally irresponsible in their dispositions in their lives on Earth have to co-operate, for a period after death, in bringing epidemics, illnesses and untimely deaths into the physical sense-world. 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Allein schon bereiten sich gewisse Epidemien vor, auf die bereits in unseren Vorträgen aufmerksam gemacht worden ist. So sehen wir also den gleichsam zur Unzeit eintretenden Tod über die Erde hinziehen, und so auch sehen wir Krankheiten und Seuchen über die Erde hinziehen. Und der Seher sieht Seelen, die da leben zwischen dem Tode und einer neuen Geburt, jenen Geistern helfen, die aus den übersinnlichen Welten in die Sinneswelt die Kräfte tragen, welche Seuchen, Krankheiten bringen, welche sozusagen unzeitige Tode bringen. Es gehört zu den furchtbaren Eindrücken, Menschenseelen in gewissen Zeiten ihres Lebens zwischen dem Tode und einer neuen Geburt wahrzunehmen, die Diener geworden sind der schlimmen Geister von Krankheit und Tod, und die sich selber dazu verurteilt haben, solche Diener der schlimmen Geister von Krankheit und Tod zu werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":231,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/144/1913-02-04/p009"},{"locus":"GA 144/1913-02-04/p010","passage_number":10,"text":"Versucht man nun das Leben solcher Menschen zurückzugehen bis vor die Zeit, da sie die Pforte des Todes durchschritten haben, dann findet man immer bei denjenigen Menschen, die sich das eben erwähnte Schicksal bereitet haben, daß sie in ihrem Leben auf dem physischen Plan Mangel an Gewissenhaftigkeit, Mangel an Verantwottlichkeitsgefühl gehabt haben. Das ist ein ständiges Gesetz, welches sich dem Seher zeigt, daß Seelen, die durch die Pforte des Todes schreiten, und die vorher gewissenlose Seelenanlagen gehabt haben oder in Gewissenlosigkeit gelebt haben, sich zu einer bestimmten Zeit zwischen dem Tode und der neuen Geburt zu den Dienern machen derer, die mitarbeiten müssen an dem Hereintragen von Seuchen, Krankheiten und unzeitigen Toden in die physisch-sinnliche Welt. Da sehen wir naturgemäßes Geschehen, dem diese Seelen unterliegen, und von dem wir nicht sagen können, es sei, wie eine Kristallisation oder wie der Stoß zweier elastischer Kugeln oder dergleichen, unabhängig von irgendwelchen moralischen Fehlern; sondern an dem, was da geschieht, was diese Seelen uns zeigen, schen wir, wie sich in den höheren Welten durcheinandermischt dasjenige, was als Naturgesetzmäßigkeit in den höheren Welten wirkt, mit der moralischen Weltordnung. 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