{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 147/1913-08-25/p032","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We see from this that when we want to form a judgment of such beings as Ahriman and Lucifer, it cannot be a question of simply calling them good or bad. Instead we have to understand what is the lawful activity, what is the right domain of these beings and where their unlawful activity, the overstepping of their limits, begins. For through the fact that they go beyond their limits, they entice human beings to an unlawful overstepping of the boundary into the other world, taking with them the faculties and laws of this world. The scenes of *The Souls' Awakening* deal particularly with what is experienced in passing back and forth across the boundary between the physical sense world and the super-sensible world. In this lecture today I wanted to make a beginning by describing some of the things that must be carefully watched in the borderland between the two worlds. Tomorrow we will go further into this.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture II","site_heading":"Crossing the Threshold: Luciferic and Ahrimanic Dangers","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wahr ist allein jene Gelassenheit auf dieser Entwickelungsstufe, da die Strahlen, das Licht des Geistigen hereinfallen. So sehen wir, daß es von der Seelenstimmung abhängt, die in sich fertig sein muß mit all den Affekten und Leidenschaften, die nur für die physisch-sinnliche Welt Bedeutung haben, wenn die Seele über die Schwelle der geistigen Welt in der richtigen Weise treten soll und nicht in der geistigen Welt die notwendige Konsequenz der gebliebenen sinnlichen Empfindungsweise erleben will.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":177,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/147/1913-08-25/p021"},{"locus":"GA 147/1913-08-25/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Ahriman ist ein mehr geistiges Wesen; was er an unrechtmäßiger Tätigkeit, an unrechtmäßiger Schöpfertätigkeit entwickelt, fließt sozusagen in die allgemeine Sinneswelt hinein. Luzifer ist ein mehr seelisches Wesen; was er an fühlsamen Seelenelementen herausziehen will aus der Sinneswelt, will er einverleiben seinem besonderen luziferischen Reich, in welchem er jedem Menschen — gemäß dem den Wesen eingepflanzten Egoismus — sozusagen die größte Möglichkeit willkürlicher Unabhängigkeit sichern will. Man sieht daraus eben, daß es sich bei der Beurteilung von solchen Wesenheiten, wie Ahriman und Luzifer, nicht darum handeln kann, sie einfach als gut oder böse zu bezeichnen, sondern darum, aufzufassen, welches die rechtmäßige Tätigkeit, das eigentliche Reich dieser Wesenheiten ist, und wo ihre unrechtmäßige Tätigkeit, wo die Überschreitung ihrer Grenze beginnt. Denn dadurch, daß sie ihre Grenze überschreiten, verlocken sie den Menschen zum unrechtmäßigen Überschreiten der Grenze in die andere Welt hinein mit den Fähigkeiten und Gesetzen der einen Welt. Von dem Erlebten beim Herüber- und Hinübergehen über die Grenze zwischen der physisch-sinnlichen und der übersinnlichen Welt handeln insbesondere die Bilder von «Der Seelen Erwachen». Heute wollte ich den Anfang machen, indem ich einiges von dem schilderte, was beachtet werden muß an dem Grenzgebiet zwischen der sinnlichen und übersinnlichen Welt. 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