{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 148/1913-10-06/p043","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And so when we serve the truth of the Spirit to-day we stand opposed to the times. This has to be remembered in order that we may see clearly what we have to do in our hearts if we would be co-bearers of the proclamation of the Spirit, co-bearers of the new life of the Spirit that is essential for mankind. When efforts are made through spiritual teaching to lead the souls of men to the Christ Being, how can one hope for much response in face of contemporary thought which contents itself with truths put forward to-day by all the shrewd philosophers and theologians: that there was a Christianity in existence before Christ! Evidence is produced to show that the cult and also certain typical narratives were already current in the East in pre-Christian times. And then these clever theologians explain to everyone who will listen to them that Christianity is simply the continuation of what was already there before. This kind of literature commands great respect, really tremendous respect among our contemporaries and they have not the slightest inkling what the real relationship is. When the Christ is said to have come down to the Earth as a Spiritual Being and then, later on, is found to be worshipped in forms of cult the same as those connected with the worship of heathen gods—and when such arguments are used, as they are to-day, to disavow the Christ Being ... this is a kind of logic of which the following is an illustration. Somebody or other goes into a house and leaves his clothes behind. It is known that the clothes belong to this particular man. A little later, such a man as Schiller or Goethe comes to the house and owing to certain circumstances is obliged to put on these clothes. Then he comes out in the clothes belonging to the other. And now somebody who has seen Goethe in these clothes, goes about saying: What are people talking about? Why is he supposed to be a man of special importance? I have examined the clothes minutely and I know that they belong to so-and-so who is a person of no importance whatever. Because the Christ Being made use of the garments, so to speak, of the ancient cults, there come these clever people who do not understand that the Christ Being clothed Himself in these forms as a garment only, and that the spiritual reality present in these old ritualistic forms now, is the Christ Being Himself.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture V","site_heading":"Jesus's Inner Crisis and the Birth of the Lord's Prayer","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Denn sie weisen nach, daß der Kult, ja einzelne typische Erzählungen, in derselben Weise schon früher im Morgenlande gefunden wurden. Da erklären denn die gescheiten Theologen und erzählen es allen, die es hören wollen, daß das Christentum nichts anderes sei als die Fortsetzung dessen, was schon früher da war. Und ein großes Ansehen hat diese Literatur bei unseren Zeitgenossen. Ungeheures Ansehen hat sie gefunden, und die Zeitgenossenschaft merkt gar nicht, wie sich das alles zueinander verhält.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":181,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-10-06/p077"},{"locus":"GA 148/1913-10-06/p078","passage_number":78,"text":"Wenn man von der Christus-Wesenheit spricht, wie sie in ihrer Geistigkeit heruntersteigt, und wenn man die Christus-Wesenheit später in denselben Kultformen verehrt findet wie früher die heidnischen Götter verehrt wurden, und wenn das verwendet werden soll, um die Christus-Wesenheit überhaupt wegzuleugnen, wie das ja heute auch schon da ist, so ist das eine Logik, die jemand gebraucht, dem folgendes passiert: Irgendein beliebiger Mensch geht in eine Herberge und hätte dann dort seine Kleider gelassen. Von den Kleidern weiß man, daß sie diesem Menschen gehören. Nachher wäre ein Mensch wie Schiller oder Goethe gekommen und hätte, durch irgendeinen Umstand genötigt, die zurückgelassenen Kleider angezogen und wäre herausgekommen mit den Kleidern, die dem anderen gehörten. Und nun würde jemand umhergehen, Goethe in den anderen Kleidern sehen und sagen: Ja, was redet man denn da? Was soll das für ein besonderer Mensch sein? Die Kleider habe ich ja ganz genau geprüft, die gehören dem und dem, der gar kein besonderer Mensch ist. — Weil die Christus-Wesenheit die Kleider der alten Kulte gewissermaßen benutzt hat, kommen die gescheiten Leute und erkennen nicht, daß die Christus-Wesenheit dies nur wie ein Kleid angezogen hat, und daß, was jetzt in den alten Kulten steckt, die Christus-Wesenheit ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":200,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-10-06/p078"}],"english":["GA 148/1913-10-06/p043"],"method":"reader","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":381,"en_words":420,"ratio":1.1,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 148/1913-10-06/p077","GA 148/1913-10-06/p078"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.89,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":9161,"original_word_count":10297,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy S. 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