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Diese Frage blieb zum Teil unbeantwortet, blieb als letzter ungelöster Rest der Versuchung zurück. Daraus ergab sich ein Impuls, der für das weitere Erleben des Christus im Leibe des Jesus von Nazareth wirksam blieb. Denn daß er die letzte Frage des Ahriman bei der Versuchung in der Einsamkeit nicht vollständig beantworten konnte, das stellte den Zusammenhang her zwischen dem Christus Jesus und den irdischen Ereignissen, die mit Ahriman zusammenhängen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":106,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p029"},{"locus":"GA 148/1913-12-10/p030","passage_number":30,"text":"Wenn Sie sich erinnern, wie Ahriman der Herr des Todes ist, wie er durch jene Art von Täuschung, die er hervorruft, indem er die Materialität vor der Seele ausbreitet, so daß die Seele das Materielle in der Täuschung hinnimmt, wenn Sie sich erinnern, was diesen Sommer gesagt wurde über die Taten Ahrimans in der Erdenentwickelung, werden Sie begreiflich finden, daß die Taten des Ahriman in der Erdenentwickelung eingebettet sind. Und so kam es, daß eine Verbindung entstand durch den unbeantworteten Rest dieser Frage zwischen dem Erdenwandel des Christus Jesus und der ganzen Erdenentwickelung. Gleichsam verbunden mit der Erdenentwickelung, insofern Ahriman hineinverwoben ist, wurde Christus Jesus durch diese nicht beantwortete Frage.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":110,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p030"},{"locus":"GA 148/1913-12-10/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Manchmal muß man Dinge mit trivialen Worten bezeichnen; sie sind aber nicht trivial gemeint. Ahriman macht alles so, daß es in der Materialität erscheint und in dieser auch erhalten wird. Damit aber, daß dies von ihm so gehandhabt wird, ist ein solches Ereignis nicht möglich gewesen, daß Christus Jesus die Steine in Brot verwandelt hätte. Das verhinderte eben das ahrimanische Wirken. Es ist dieselbe Erscheinung, die bedingt, daß gewisse Stufen, die mit der Erdenentwickelung zusammenhängen, insofern sie mit Ahriman verknüpft sind, erst im gesamten Zeitverlauf und der totalen Durchchristung der Erdenevolution überwunden werden können.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":94,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p031"},{"locus":"GA 148/1913-12-10/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Was im kosmischen Vaterunser gesagt wird: «Von andern erschuldete Selbstheitschuld, Erlebet im täglichen Brote», das drückt sich aus in den ahrimanischen Mächten, von denen gesagt wird in diesem Vaterunser: «In dem nicht waltet der Himmel Wille», sondern Ahrimans Wille, das muß also innerhalb der irdischen Gesetzmäßigkeit behandelt und kann nicht bloß geistig behandelt werden. Diese Dinge hängen zusammen mit diesem täglichen Brot. In der äußeren sozialen Welt drückt sich das darin aus, daß man in der Tat das Materielle in der Form des Geldes, des Mammons braucht, des gröbsten Bildes der ahrimanischen Fesselung, was dann verhindert, daß im sozialen Leben Steine zu Brot werden können, was notwendig macht, daß der Mensch auf der Erde verknüpft bleibt mit dem Ahrimanischen, dem Materiellen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":121,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p032"},{"locus":"GA 148/1913-12-10/p033","passage_number":33,"text":"Sie müssen diesen Gedanken selbst weiterdenken: wie die Aufforderung «Mache die Steine zu Brot», zusammenhängt mit der Funktion des Geldes im sozialen Wirken. Daß aber so die ahrimanische Macht mit dem irdischen Wandel des Christus Jesus verbunden blieb, dadurch war Ahriman imstande, dann später einzufließen in die Seele des Judas, und auf dem Umwege über den Judas zu den in den anderen Evangelien gesagten Ereignissen zu führen, die auf dem Umwege durch Judas dann den Christus Jesus für seine Verfolger erkenntlich machten. Ahriman in Judas führte eigentlich Christi Tod herbei und daß er das konnte, rührt von der nicht vollständig beantworteten Frage bei der Versuchung her.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":106,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p033"}],"beads":[{"from":[25],"to":[26],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[26],"to":[27],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[27],"to":[28],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[28],"to":[29],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[29],"to":[30],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[30],"to":[31],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[31],"to":[32],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[32],"to":[33],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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