{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 148/1913-12-10/p036","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"To understand this mystery of Golgotha better and better will be the task of progressive spiritual development. Some things that play a major role in present-day culture will indeed have to be overcome. We are currently facing a crisis in our understanding of Christianity, a real crisis. Of course, I am not talking about what can be said about Christianity by this or that popular theology. I would just like to draw attention to elementary events of incomprehension in the present. At one of those meetings in 1910, where the historical Christ was discussed, a much-talked-about theologian spoke to emphasize that the words of Christ Jesus' teaching were only summarized teachings that had existed before: “I will be grateful to you if I can be shown just one sentence among the sayings of Jesus Christ that was not already there in some form or other.” If a liberal theological investigator can prove today what that person claimed, he is a great man for our contemporaries, because how convincing it must be if one can really prove that all of Christ's sayings were said earlier by others, that they were therefore nothing new. To the one who sees things through, such a saying appears in a different light. Imagine that Goethe had made a poem, not yet written it down, only spoken it, and a child who was listening had shouted: These are all words that I have already heard. The theologian who hears nothing but what he already knows and does not realize what is important, because that stands above the sayings that were there before, as a Goethean poem stands above the individual words that the child has already heard. If one does not know what to consider the main thing, and believes that one is doing real theology today by adhering to words in this way, adhering to what is true, that the sayings have already “been there,” it is implied that we are in a deep crisis with regard to the understanding of Christianity, from which one can already understand that a real understanding of Christ can only come into the world when today's theology, which has the public office of watching over the understanding of Christ, first dies. That is what matters: that one learns to sense the full magnitude of the facts that took place around Golgotha.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Second Munich Lecture","site_heading":null,"date":"1913-12-10","location":null,"word_count":392,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/148/1913-12-10/p036","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Fifth Gospel III","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA148/English/SOL2024/19131210p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Bei einer von jenen Versammlungen im Jahre 1910, wo über den historischen Christus gesprochen wurde, sprach ein vielgenannter Theologe, um zu betonen, daß die Worte der Lehre des Christus Jesus nur zusammengefaßte Lehren seien, die auch schon früher dagewesen wären: Ich werde Ihnen dankbar sein, wenn mir nur ein einziger Satz unter den Aussprüchen des Jesus Christus nachgewiesen werden kann, der nicht schon früher in irgendeiner Form da war. - Wenn heute ein liberaler theologischer Forscher das belegen kann, was jener behauptet hat, ist er für unsere Zeitgenossen ein großer Mann, denn wie überzeugend muß das wirken, wenn man wirklich nachweisen kann, daß alle Aussprüche von Christus schon früher von anderen gesagt worden sind, daß sie also nichts Neues waren. Dem, der die Dinge dutchschaut, erscheint ein solcher Ausspruch in anderem Lichte. Man denke sich, Goethe hätte ein Gedicht gemacht, noch nicht aufgeschrieben, nur gesprochen, und ein Kind, das zuhörte, hätte gerufen: Das sind ja alles Worte, die ich schon gehört habe. - Wie das Kind, so ist der Theologe, der nichts hört, als was er schon kennt und nicht merkt, worauf es ankommt, denn das steht über den Aussprüchen, die früher schon da waren, so hoch, wie ein Goethesches Gedicht über den einzelnen Worten, die das Kind schon gehört hat. Wenn man gar nicht weiß, was man als die Hauptsache ins Auge zu fassen hat, und glauben kann, man treibe heute echte Theologie dadurch, daß man sich in dieser Weise an Worte hält, sich daran hält, was wahr ist, daß die Aussprüche schon “ dagewesen sind, so wird damit angedeutet, daß wir in einer tiefen Krisis in bezug auf die Erfassung des Christentums stehen, aus der man schon wird begreifen können, daß wirkliches Christus-Verständnis erst dadurch in die Welt kommen kann, wenn die heutige Theologie, die das öffentliche Amt hat, über das Christus-Verständnis zu wachen, erst abstirbt. Das ist es, worauf es ankommt: daß man erfühlen lernt die ganze Größe der Tatsachen, die sich um Golgatha abspielten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":412,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/148/1913-12-10/p037"}],"english":["GA 148/1913-12-10/p036"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":412,"en_words":392,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6704,"original_word_count":6463,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Fifth Gospel III","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA148/English/SOL2024/19131210p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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