{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 15/l03/p010","lang":"en","edition":"ASGB1921","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":false,"text":"To speak in this way about the Christ—how He is the leader of the higher hierarchies also in the successive worlds, is to teach the science which, under the sign of the Rose Cross, has endured in our civilization since the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. If from this aspect we observe more closely the Being Who lived in Palestine, and Who consummated the Mystery of Golgotha, we shall find the following: up to the present time many ideas concerning the Christ have found expression. There was for instance the idea of certain Christian Gnostics in the first centuries who said that the Christ Who lived in Palestine was not present in any physical body of flesh at all; that He had only an apparent body—an etheric body which had become physically visible; so that His death on the Cross had been no real death but only an apparent one. Then we find diverse disputes among those who professed Christianity, as for example, the well-known controversy between the Arians and Athanasians, and the most varied explanations concerning what the Christ really was. Indeed, right up to *our* own times people express and have expressed the most different ideas concerning the Christ.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":null,"date":null,"location":null,"word_count":200,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/15/l03/p010?edition=ASGB1921","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":null,"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["AP1992","ASGB1921"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/15/l03/p010"},{"lang":"en","edition":"AP1992","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/15/l03/p010"},{"lang":"en","edition":"ASGB1921","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":false,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/15/l03/p010?edition=ASGB1921","paragraph_aligned":true}],"german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"l03","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 15/l03/p011","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/15/l03/p011"},{"locus":"GA 15/l03/p012","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/15/l03/p012"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":213,"en_words":200,"ratio":0.94,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Betrachtet man im Sinne dieser Anschauung die Wesenheit näher, welche in Palästina gelebt hat, und welche dann das Mysterium von Golgatha vollbracht hat, so zeigt sich das Folgende.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":81,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/15/l03/p011"},{"locus":"GA 15/l03/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Es hat bis in unsere Gegenwart herein viele Vorstellungen über den Christus gegeben. Da gab es zum Beispiel die Vorstellung gewisser christlicher Gnostiker der ersten Jahrhunderte, welche sagten: Der Christus, der gelebt hat in Palästina, war überhaupt in keinem physischen fleischlichen Leib vorhanden; er habe nur einen Scheinleib gehabt, einen Ätherleib, der physisch sichtbar geworden war; so daß also auch sein Kreuzestod kein wirklicher Tod gewesen wäre, sondern nur ein scheinbarer, weil eben nur ein Ätherleib vorhanden war. Dann findet man die verschiedenen Streitigkeiten unter den Anhängern des Christentums, so zum Beispiel den bekannten Streit zwischen den Arianern und Athanasianern und so weiter, und auch bei ihnen die verschiedensten Auslegungen über das, was der Christus eigentlich sei. Bis in unsere Zeit hinein machen sich die Menschen die mannigfaltigsten Vorstellungen über den Christus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":132,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/15/l03/p012"}],"english":["GA 15/l03/p010"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":213,"en_words":200,"ratio":0.94,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.11,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7626,"original_word_count":6840,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"status":"unknown","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. 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