{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 151/1914-01-21/p020","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Again, there may be other persons who speak as follows. Around us are matter and the world of material phenomena. But this world of material phenomena is in itself devoid of meaning. It has no real meaning unless there is within it a progressive tendency; unless from this external world something can emerge towards which the human soul can direct itself, independently of the world. According to this outlook, there must be a realm of ideas and ideals within the world-process. Such people are not Realists, although they pay external life its due; their view is that life has meaning only if ideas work through it and give it purpose. It was under the influence of such a mood as this that Fichte once said: Our world is the sensualised material of our duty.[^1] The adherents of such a world-outlook as this, which takes everything as a vehicle for the ideas that permeate the world-process, may be called Idealists and their outlook: *Idealism*. Beautiful and grand and glorious things have been brought forward on behalf of this Idealism. And in this realm that I have just described—where the point is to show that the world would be purposeless and meaningless if ideas were only human inventions and were not rooted in the world-process—in this realm Idealism is fully justified. But by means of it one cannot, for example, explain external reality. 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Aber die Welt der materiellen Erscheinungen ist eigentlich in sich sinnleer. Sie hat keinen rechten Sinn, wenn nicht in ihr jene Tendenz liegt, die sich eben bewegt nach vorwärts, wenn nicht aus dieser Welt, die da um uns herum ausgebreitet ist, das geboren werden kann, wonach die Menschenseele sich richten kann als nicht in der Welt enthalten, die um uns herum ausgebreitet ist. Es muß nach der Anschauung solcher Menschen das Ideelle und das Ideale im Weltprozesse drinnen sein. Solche Menschen geben den realen Weltprozessen ihr Recht. Sie sind nicht Realisten, trotzdem sie dem realen Leben recht geben, sondern sie sind der Anschauung, das reale Leben muß durchtränkt werden von dem Ideellen, nur dann bekommt es einen Sinn. - In einem Anfluge von solcher Stimmung hat Fichte einmal gesagt: Alle Welt, die sich um uns herum ausbreitet, ist das versinnlichte Material für die Pflichterfüllung. Die Vertreter solcher Weltanschauung, die alles nur Mittel sein läßt für Ideen, die den Weltprozeß durchdringen, kann man Idealisten nennen und ihre Weltanschauung Idealismus. Schönes und Großes und Herrliches ist für diesen Idealismus vorgebracht worden. Und auf dem Gebiete, das ich eben charakterisiert habe, wo es darauf ankommt, zu zeigen, wie die Welt zweck- und sinnlos wäre, wenn die Ideen nur menschliche Phantasiegebilde wären und nicht im Weltprozesse drinnen wirklich begründet wären, auf diesem Gebiete hat der Idealismus seine volle Bedeutung. Aber mit diesem Idealismus kann man zum Beispiel die äußere Wirklichkeit, die äußere Realität des Realisten nicht erklären. 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