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Justin said, “Heraclites, Socrates and Plato were also Christians, the only kind of Christians possible before the actual consummation of the Mystery of Golgotha.” Theologians of today no longer realize it but in the first centuries of Christianity the Christian martyrs still knew that the old Greek sages, although they did not use the name of Christ, if asked about Apollo, would have answered out of their Mystery wisdom, “The great Sun Spirit, Who in the future will live as a man on earth, appears to us in Apollo as though ensouled in him in the form of an archangel.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"The Four Sacrifices of Christ","site_heading":null,"date":"1914-06-01","location":null,"word_count":135,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/152/1914-06-01/p020","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"May Laird-Brown","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":"The Four Sacrifices of Christ","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA152/English/Singles/19140601p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/152/1914-06-01/p020"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/152/1914-06-01/p020","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Einen Ausspruch, der, da ihn der Märtyrer getan hat, doch auch als christlich angesehen werden darf, trotzdem verschiedene heutige Vertreter des Christentums ihn verketzern würden. Justin sagte: Heraklit und Sokrates und Plato waren auch Christen, aber nur solche, wie man Christ sein konnte bevor eben das Mysterium von Golgatha sich vollzogen hatte. 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