{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 153/1914-04-14_02/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us consider a case which concerns us very closely. Public lectures have to be given on the subject of Spiritual Science. These are given to a public that is gathered together simply through advertisement. Something happens here which is somewhat similar to the case of the seeds of corn, a part only of which are used in the straight forward stream of existence. One must not be discouraged when, in such circumstances, one has to bring the stream of spiritual life apparently without choice before many, many people, and when only a few separate themselves and really enter into this spiritual life, become anthroposophists, and join the direct stream. Under these circumstances, it still happens that these scattered seeds come to many who, after a public lecture, go away and say, for example, ‘What mad nonsense the fellow talked!’ Seen with respect to external life, this is like the germs—shall we say—like the fish-germs that come to nothing in the ocean; but from the standpoint of a deeper investigation it is not so. Souls who through their karma come to a lecture and who then go away and say: ‘What foolish nonsense the fellow talked!’—these souls are not yet ready to receive the truth of the spirit; but it is necessary for their souls in their present incarnation to feel the approach of the power contained in Spiritual Science. However much they may scold, it remains a force in their souls for their next incarnation. Thus the germs have not been lost; they find a way. Life with respect to spiritual things is under the same laws, whether we follow the spirit in the order of nature, or in the case which we consider to be our own.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Pleasures and Sufferings in the Life Beyond","site_heading":"Karma, Spiritual Development, and the Christ-Impulse","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Auf diesem Gebiete ist es noch so, daß diese verstreuten Keime an viele herandringen, welche zum Beispiel nach einem öffentlichen Vortrage weggehen und sagen: Was hat der Kerl da für tollen Unsinn geschwatzt! Unmittelbar angeschaut in bezug auf das äußere Leben, ist das so wie, sagen wir, die Keime, die im Meer als Fischkeime verlorengehen; aber vom Standpunkt einer tieferen Forschung ist es nicht so. Die Seelen, die da gekommen sind durch ihr Karma, die dann fortgehen und sagen: Was hat der Kerl da für tollen Unsinn geschwatzt! —, die sind noch nicht reif, die Wahrheit des Geistes zu empfangen, aber notwendig haben es ihre Seelen in der jetzigen Inkarnation, heranschwingen zu fühlen das, was als Kraft in dieser Geisteswissenschaft liegt. Und das bleibt doch in ihren Seelen, sie mögen noch so schimpfen, es bleibt als Kraft in ihren Seelen für ihre nächste Inkarnation, und dann sind die Keime nicht verloren, sie finden Wege. Es unterliegt das Dasein in bezug auf das Geistige den gleichen Gesetzen, ob wir dieses Geistige in der Naturordnung verfolgen oder in dem Fall, den wir als unseren eigenen Fall anführen konnten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":284,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/153/1914-04-14_02/p017"}],"english":["GA 153/1914-04-14_02/p016"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":284,"en_words":289,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.0,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6146,"original_word_count":6163,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"APC1928","book_title":"The Inner Nature of Man and Life Between Death and Rebirth","publisher":"Anthroposophical Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA153/English/APC1928/19140414p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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