{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 154/1914-05-05/p030","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us assume now that someone else has a lively imagination, but cannot be bothered to approach spiritual science and learn things slowly and gradually. He finds it much easier to develop ideas about the spiritual world from his imagination, to fantasize about the spiritual world. This person has ideas concerning the sense world as well as all kinds of fantasies about the realm of the spirit. Such an individual would not enter the spiritual world as a blind person, but will have soul forces that will enable him to see in the spiritual world. However, such people will be as we are when our vision in the physical world is impaired and we see things inaccurately as a result. Such inaccurate vision is a lot worse in the spiritual world than on the physical plane because there it leads to confusion at every turn. What I have just said, even if it seems grotesque at first, shows us that we need ideas reaching beyond the life of the senses if we really want to become citizens of the spiritual world, as we must. And unless we get our bearings from beyond the sense world, we will live in the spiritual world in a crippled state, as do those who take in only ideas related to the sensory realm and those who allow their imagination to run wild.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"3. 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Er kommt blind hinein in die Zeit zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt. Nehmen wir nun weiter an, ein Mensch hätte eine lebhafte Phantasie und fände es unbequem, heranzukommen an die Geisteswissenschaft, allerlei zu lernen, so nach und nach erst etwas zu lernen. Er fände es viel bequemer, sich alle möglichen Vorstellungen zu machen aus der Phantasie heraus über die geistige Welt, er dächte sehr viel aus bloßer Phantasie heraus über die geistige Welt, so daß er auf einer Seite hätte alles dasjenige im Vorstellungsleben, was von der Sinnenwelt handelt und dann auf der anderen Seitenoch alle möglichen Phantasievorstellungen über die geistige Welt. Ein solcher Mensch unterschiede sich allerdings von dem, der sagt: Bleibt mir vom Leibe mit den Vorstellungen von der geistigen Welt -, denn derjenige, der nichts wissen will von der geistigen Welt, der geht wie ein Blinder in die geistige Welt. Derjenige, der sich wenigstens Phantasievorstellungen macht, hat solche Seelenkräfte, daß er allerdings als ein Sehender in die geistige Welt hineinkommt, aber er wird ein solcher Sehender, wie in der physischen Welt einer ein Sehender ist, der lauter Fehler in seinem Auge hat, so daß er überall falsch sieht. Und das bedeutet in der geistigen Welt noch viel Schlimmeres als in der physischen Welt, denn wenn einer in der geistigen Welt alles falsch sieht, so heißt das, auf Schritt und Tritt in der geistigen Welt Verwirrung stiften. Aber wir können eines sehen aus dem, was gesagt worden ist, wenn auch in grotesker Weise, wir können sehen, daß der Mensch Vorstellungen braucht, die über das sinnliche Leben hinausgehen, wenn er wirklich ein Bürger der geistigen Welt sein will, und das muß er sein. 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