{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 155/1914-07-12/p018","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us now turn to the Jewish people. Did the Jews know Christ? I am not asking whether the Jewish people knew the name of Christ or if they were conscious of all I have to say to you; I am asking whether those who really understand Christianity are justified in saying: “Judaism had Christ; Judaism knew Christ.” It is possible to have some person near one and to see his external form without being able to recognize or value truly his essential being, because one has not risen to real knowledge of him. In the true Christian sense, ancient Judaism had Christ, only it did not recognize Him in His true being. Is it Christian to speak in this way? 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Ich möchte sagen: Im richtig christlichen Sinne hatte das alte Judentum den Christus, nur erkannte es ihn nicht seiner Wesenheit nach. — Ist das, was ich eben sagte, christlich? Es ist christlich, so wahr als es paulinisch ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":143,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/155/1914-07-12/p018"},{"locus":"GA 155/1914-07-12/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"Wo war für das alte Judentum der Christus? Es wird gesagt im Alten Testament, daß, als Moses die Juden aus Ägypten in die Wüste führte (2. Mose 14), bei Tag eine Wolkensäule, bei Nacht eine Feuersäule ihnen voranzog. Es wird gesagt, daß die Juden durch das Meer zogen und daß das Meer sich ihnen teilte, so daß sie es durchwaten konnten, während die Ägypter hinterher ertranken, da das Meer sich schloß. 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