{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 155/1914-07-12/p032","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In our day many people no longer have any knowledge of the real meaning of human immortality. Many today speak of immortality when they can merely admit that the being of the human soul passes through the gate of death and then finds some place or other in the universal All. But every creature does that. That which is united with the crystal passes over into the universe when the crystal is dissolved; the plant that fades passes into the universe; the animal at death passes over into the universe. For man, it is different. Immortality has a meaning for man only if he can carry his consciousness through the gate of death. Think of an immortal human soul that was unconscious after death; such immortality would have absolutely no meaning. The human soul must carry its consciousness through the gate of death if it is to speak of its immortality. Because of the way in which the soul is united to the body, it cannot find anything in itself of which it can say, “I carry that consciously through death”, for human consciousness is enclosed between birth and death; it reaches only as far as death. The consciousness that belongs at first to the human soul extends only as far as death. Into this consciousness there shines the divine Will, for example in the Ten Commandments. Read in the Book of Job as to whether this illumination could stimulate man's consciousness to such a point that it might say to itself: “I pass as a conscious being through the gate of death.” What a challenge to us there is in the words spoken to Job: “Reject God and die!” We know that he was uncertain whether he would pass with consciousness through the gate of death. And let us set beside this the Greek saying which gives expression to the dread felt by the Greeks in the face of death: “Better a beggar in the upper world than a king in the realm of the shades.” Here we have from paganism, also, a testimony to the uncertainty felt by man concerning his immortality. And how uncertain many people are even today. All those people who say that man, when he goes through the gate of death, passes into the universal All and is united with some universal being or other, take no heed of what the soul must ascribe to itself if it is to speak of its immortality.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Christ's Presence in Human Soul Evolution","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Gewiß kommt man durch reine Philosophie dazu, zu wissen, daß ein Göttliches in der Welt waltet, und sich verbunden zu fühlen mit dem Weltenall; gewiß kommt man dazu, zu wissen, daß die menschliche Wesenheit mit dem Tode irgendwie mit dem Weltenall verbunden werden müsse, allein wie sie verbunden wird, dazu kann man durch reine Philosophie nicht kommen. Warum nicht? Ja, wenn Sie den ganzen Sinn desjenigen, was wir heute schon besprochen haben, nehmen, so werden Sie sich sagen können: Das, was sich zunächst dem Erdenmenschen in seiner Seele enthüllt zwischen Geburt und Tod, das ist eben in seinen Kräften zu schwach, um irgend etwas wahrzunehmen, das über das Irdische hinausgeht, das in das Göttlich-Geistige hineinführt. Wir wollen, um uns das ganz deutlich zu machen, einmal forschen nach dem Sinn der Unsterblichkeit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":226,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/155/1914-07-12/p035"},{"locus":"GA 155/1914-07-12/p036","passage_number":36,"text":"Viele Menschen wissen heute schon gar nicht mehr, welches eigentlich der Sinn menschlicher Unsterblichkeit sein kann. Viele Menschen reden heute vor allen Dingen von Unsterblichkeit auch dann, wenn sie nur zugeben können, daß die Menschenseele mit ihrer Wesenheit durch die Pforte des Todes hindurchgeht und dann etwa irgend welchen Platz im All findet. Das aber tut jedes Wesen. Dasjenige, was mit dem Kristall vereinigt ist, wenn er sich auflöst, geht in das All über; die Pflanze, die hinwelkt, geht in das All über; das Tier, das abstirbt, geht in das All über. Für den Menschen verhält sich die Sache doch noch anders. Unsterblichkeit hat für den Menschen nur einen Sinn, wenn er durch die Pforte des Todes sein Bewußtsein tragen kann. Denken Sie sich eine unsterbliche Menschenseele, die etwa nach dem Tode unbewußt wäre. Solche Unsterblichkeit hätte keinen Sinn, hätte nicht den geringsten Sinn. Bewußtsein muß die Menschenseele durch den Tod tragen, wenn sie von ihrer Unsterblichkeit sprechen soll. So wie die Seele mit dem Leibe vereint ist, kann sie nichts in sich finden, von dem sie sagen könnte: Das ist so, daß ich es bewußt durch den Tod trage. Denn das Bewußtsein des Menschen ist eingeschlossen zwischen Geburt und Tod, es reicht ja nur bis zum Tode. So wie es die menschliche Seele zunächst hat, dieses Bewußtsein, so reicht es nur bis zum Tode. In dieses Bewußtsein leuchtet hinein der göttliche Wille, zum Beispiel in den Zehn Geboten. Lesen Sie im Buch Hiob, ob dieses Hineinleuchten den Menschen so weit hat bringen können, daß sein Bewußtsein etwa aufgerüttelt worden wäre und solche Kräfte aus sich herausgetrieben hätte, daß er sich hätte sagen können: Ich gehe mit Bewußtheit durch die Pforte des Todes. Oh, wie mutet uns an das Wort, das zu dem Hiob gesprochen worden ist: «Sage Gott ab und stirb!» (Hiob 2, 9) Wir wissen, der Mann ist unsicher, ob er mit Bewußtsein durch die Pforte des Todes geht. Und stellen wir dazu das griechische Wort, das uns des Griechen Furcht vor dem Tode vorstellt: Besser ein Bettler in der Oberwelt als ein König im Reiche der Schatten — dann haben wir auch aus dem Heidentum heraus den Beleg, wie unsicher man geworden war über menschliche Unsterblichkeit. Und wie unsicher sind selbst heute noch viele Menschen. Alle die Menschen, die da sprechen, daß der Mensch, indem er durch die Pforte des Todes geht, in dem All aufgehe, sich mit irgendeinem Allwesen verbinde, achten nicht darauf, was die Seele, wenn sie von ihrer Unsterblichkeit sprechen will, sich selbst zuschreiben muß.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":421,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/155/1914-07-12/p036"}],"english":["GA 155/1914-07-12/p031","GA 155/1914-07-12/p032"],"method":"embedding","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":647,"en_words":625,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.89,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6092,"original_word_count":6838,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Charles Davy","identified_edition":"RSP1972","book_title":"Christ and the Human Soul","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA155/English/RSP1972/19140712p01.html","evidence":"lecture_list_row","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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