{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 155/1914-07-15_02/p026","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Many believe they may call themselves true Christians, and yet speak of others—anthroposophical Christians for instance—as heretics! There is surely very little true Christian feeling here. The question may perhaps be permitted: ‘Is it really Christian to think that I may do anything, and that Christ only came into the world for the sake of taking it all away from me and to forgive my sins, so that I may have nothing more to do with my Karma, with my sins?’ I think there is another word more applicable to such a mode of thought than the word ‘Christian’; perhaps the word ‘convenient’ would be better. ‘Convenient’ it certainly would be, if a man had only to repent, and then all the sins that he had committed in the world were obliterated for the whole of his later Karma. The sin is not blotted out from Karma; but it can be blotted out from the earth-evolution, and this it is that man cannot do because of the human weakness that is the result of the Luciferic temptation. Christ accomplishes this. With the remission of sins we are saved from the pain of having added an objective debt to the Earth-evolution for all eternity. When we have this understanding of Christ a greater earnestness will manifest itself in many other things as well. Many elements will fall away from those conceptions of Christ which may well seem full of triviality and cynicism to the man whose soul has absorbed the Christ-conception in all seriousness. For all that has been said to-day, and that can be proved point by point from the most significant passages of the New Testament, tells us that all that Christ is to us comes from the fact that He is not a Being like other men, but a Being Who, from above, that is, ‘out of the cosmos,’ entered into the earth-evolution at the baptism by John in Jordan. Everything proves the cosmic nature of Christ. And he who deeply grasps Christ's attitude towards sin and debt, may speak thus: ‘Because man in the course of the earth's existence could not blot out his guilt for the whole earth—a cosmic Being had to descend in order that it might be made possible for the earth-debt to be discharged.’ True, Christianity must needs regard Christ as a cosmic Being. It cannot do otherwise. Our soul must be deeply permeated by what is meant in the words: ‘Not I, but Christ in me.’ For then from this knowledge there radiates into our soul something that I can only express in these words: ‘When I am able to say: “Not I, but Christ in me” in that moment I assert that I shall be removed from the earth-sphere, that in me there lives some thing that has significance for the cosmos, and that I am counted worthy, as man, to bear a super-earthly element in my soul just as I bear within me a super-earthly being in all that has entered me from Saturn, Sun and Moon.’","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Christ and the Human Soul III","site_heading":null,"date":"1914-07-15","location":null,"word_count":507,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/155/1914-07-15_02/p026","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Henry Collison","identified_edition":null,"book_title":"How the Spiritual World Interpenetrates the Physical","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/SpiritPhys/19140715p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/155/1914-07-15_02/p026"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/155/1914-07-15_02/p026","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Ich glaube, es ist ein anderes Wort anwendbar auf eine solche Denkweise als das Wort «christlich»; vielleicht wäre das Wort «bequem» besser als das Wort «christlich». Bequem wäre es ja allerdings, wenn man bloß zu bereuen hätte, und ausgelöscht wäre dadurch für sein ganzes späteres Karma alles das, was man in der Welt verbrochen hat. Nein, aus dem Karma ist es nicht ausgelöscht, aber davon kann es ausgelöscht werden, wohin wir wegen der menschlichen Schwäche, durch die luziferische Verführung, nicht selbst dringen können: von der Erdenentwickelung. Und das tut der Christus. Dieses Leid wird uns genommen mit der Sündenerlösung: daß wir für ewige Zeiten der ganzen Erdenentwickelung eine objektive Schuld zugefügt haben. Dafür müssen wir natürlich ein ernstes Interesse haben. Dann aber, wenn wir die Sache so auffassen, dann wird sich wahrhaftig auch in vielen anderen Dingen ein kräftiger Ernst verbinden mit einer echten, wahren Christus-Auffassung. Ein tiefer Ernst wird sich mit ihr verbinden, und manches wird abfallen von mancher Christus-Auffassung, das demjenigen, der den ganzen Ernst der Christus-Auffassung in seine Seele nimmt, geradezu als eine Art Frivolität und Zynismus erscheinen könnte. Denn alles, alles, was heute gesprochen worden ist und was Punkt für Punkt gerade mit wichtigsten Stellen aus dem Neuen Testament belegt werden kann, das spricht uns ja dafür: Alles das, was uns der Christus ist, ist er uns dadurch, daß er nicht ein Wesen ist wie andere Menschen, sondern ein Wesen, das von oben, das heißt aus dem Kosmos, bei der Johannestaufe im Jordan in die menschliche Erdenentwickelung eingeflossen ist. Alles spricht für die kosmische Natur des Christus, Und wer im tiefen Sinne auffaßt, wie der Christus sich stellt zu Sünde und Schuld, der möchte so sagen: Es mußte, eben weil der Mensch im Laufe des Erdendaseins seine Schuld nicht tilgen konnte für die ganze Erde, ein kosmisches Wesen heruntersteigen, daß es doch möglich gemacht werde, daß die Erdenschuld getilgt werde.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":415,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/155/1914-07-15_02/p033"},{"locus":"GA 155/1914-07-15_02/p034","passage_number":34,"text":"Wahres Christentum kann gar nicht anders, als den Christus als ein kosmisches Wesen ansehen. 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