{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 156/1914-12-13/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now you understand that certain perspectives arise under this condition. Firstly, there is the perspective that is important in a pedagogical-hygienic sense: it is not to be underestimated to have a well-developed sense of taste. I have already discussed this for our friends on one occasion when I was talking about child education. It is important to realize that one should develop a living relationship with the different foods one eats, that it matters to a certain extent whether one eats lettuce or spinach, but that one should have a living relationship with the differentiations of the plant world in lettuce and spinach. For what one experiences in tasting lettuce and spinach are living relationships between the macrocosm and the microcosm, and these living relationships continue in the subconscious taste experience of the astral body, which passes through all the organs. Those who become vegetarians, for example, should not associate this with false asceticism, for instance by using their vegetarianism to dull themselves as much as possible to the friendly relationship with the nature of nature. Instead, they should develop the ability to taste the subtle differences between the individual food types. One can do this particularly well as a vegetarian because one is able – if the word is not misunderstood, I would like to say – to taste those fine, refined differences between the individual plants and what one prepares from them as food, whereas, of course, if one is not a vegetarian, one has more brutal differences with meat dishes. Because if we become blunted in this respect, there is a real danger that we will extend this blunting from the conscious part of the astral taste experiences to the subconscious part of the taste experiences. But by doing so, we cut off the living influences that emanate from the astral body to the lower limbs of our organism. And it is an uncomfortable sight to come to some vegetarian restaurants and see how people pile a mountain of all kinds of mixed food on their plates and stuff it into their mouths without understanding, and then act particularly superior to what the ordinary person has in terms of a friendly relationship with their natural environment when it comes to taste experiences.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Second Lecture","site_heading":"The Four Members and Cosmic-Astral Correspondences","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Denn das, was man erlebt im Schmecken von Salat und Spinat, sind lebendige Beziehungen des Makrokosmos zum Mikrokosmos, und diese lebendigen Beziehungen setzen sich im unterbewußten Geschmackserleben des Astralleibes fort, das durch alle Organe geht. Diejenigen, die Vegetarier werden zum Beispiel, sollten durchaus damit nicht eine falsche Askese verbinden, indem sie ihr Vegetarierwerden etwa dazu verwenden, um sich möglichst abzustumpfen gegen das freundschaftliche Verhältnis zu dem Wesen der Natur, sondern sie sollten gerade das ausbilden, feine Unterschiede zu erschmecken gegenüber den einzelnen Nahrungsgattungen. Man kann das besonders gut als Vegetarier, weil man da in die Lage kommt - wenn das Wort nicht mißverstanden wird, möchte ich sagen -, jene feinen raffinierten Unterschiede zu schmecken zwischen den einzelnen Pflanzen und dem, was man als Speise von ihnen bereitet, während man ja natürlich, wenn man nicht Vegetarier ist, bei den Fleischspeisen brutalere Unterschiede hat. Denn wenn wir uns in dieser Beziehung abstumpfen, droht es uns wirklich, diese Abstumpfung von dem bewußten Teil der astralischen Geschmackserlebnisse fortzusetzen in den unterbewußten Teil der Geschmackserlebnisse. Damit aber unterbinden wir die lebendigen Einwirkungen, die von dem Astralleib ausgehen auf die unteren Glieder unseres Organismus. Und es ist ein unbehaglicher Anblick, in manches vegetarische Restaurant zu kommen und zu sehen, wie sich die Leute auf den Teller ein Gebirge von allen möglichen durcheinandergemischten Nahrungsmitteln häufen und das ohne Verständnis in den Mund hineinstopfen, und sich dabei noch besonders erhaben geben über dasjenige, was der gewöhnliche Mensch als ein freundschaftliches Verhältnis zu seiner Naturumgebung in bezug auf die Geschmackserlebnisse hat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":352,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/156/1914-12-13/p011"}],"english":["GA 156/1914-12-13/p011"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":352,"en_words":375,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5971,"original_word_count":5709,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"How Does One Enter the World of Ideas?","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA156/English/SOL2024/19141213p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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