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As soon as you close your eyes and put your hands over your ears you will see or hear nothing of the physical world around you. And now ask yourselves: How much of the impressions the soul takes into itself from morning to night, and how much of the ideas and concepts it holds within it, is in actual fact owed to the eyes and ears? If we had no eyes and ears, by far the greatest part of human soul content would simply not be there. Now, after death the human being quite definitely has neither eyes nor ears. Anything taken in through the eyes and ears can therefore only be carried through the gates of death through memory. There really is no need to reflect further on this. Anything taken in through the eyes and ears can only be carried through the gate of death as memory. The same applies to all the ideas we have formed on the basis of sensory impressions. And now you merely need consider how much has to be left behind when we enter into the spiritual world—everything which has come to man through external impressions is left behind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":250,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/157/1915-01-26/p023","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1915-01-26","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 157/1915-01-26/p016","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p016"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":253,"en_words":250,"ratio":0.99,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Anna R. 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It most certainly cannot derive from any form of external impression; and one quality it must possess is that anyone thinking in materialistic terms will be able to say: ‘What you have before your mind's eye simply does not exist, for you are not able to see it with your eyes nor hear it with your ears.’ The nature of such an idea or concept must be such, therefore, that its subject is not perceptible to the outer senses, for anything we are able to perceive with the outer senses cannot go through the gate of death as an idea. My comment is that materialism is seduced into raising such objections because it is all the time talking of ‘being’ and ‘non-being’ without really understanding the ins and outs of ‘'being’ and ‘non-being’. It is sufficient for our present purpose to consider just the German language. The verb *sein* (to be) derives from *sehen* (to see). Anything said to be in ‘being’ therefore is said to be no more than ‘something I have actually seen’. All the rest of the talk about ‘being’, is really nothing more than communication about that what has been seen. The conclusion to be drawn from this is that we should not speak of the things we take with us through the gate of death in terms of ‘being’, for that would imply that we must have seen them with our physical eyes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":257,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/157/1915-01-26/p024","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1915-01-26","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 157/1915-01-26/p017","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p017"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":238,"en_words":257,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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In such a case it would still have been better for people to have taken up the wrong ideas than to have taken up no ideas at all concerning the supersensible world. Why? It would have been better because the soul has to make an effort in accepting any kind of idea about the supersensible world. You may take up correct ideas or incorrect ideas but you have to make an effort, and it is this effort which counts in the spiritual world when we go through the gate of death. 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Sie können sich leicht eine Vorstellung über das bilden, was man sich mitnimmt, wenn Sie daran denken: sobald Sie die Augen schließen und die Ohren sich zuhalten, so hören und sehen Sie nichts von Ihrer sinnlichen Umgebung. Und nun fragen Sie sich einmal: Wieviel von dem, was vom Morgen bis zum Abend die Seele an Eindrücken in sich birgt, und wieviel von dem, was sie an Vorstellungen in sich trägt, die Seele im Grunde genommen den Augen und Ohren verdankt? - Wenn man also keine Augen und Ohren hätte, so würde der weitaus größte Teil der Inhalte der menschlichen Seele überhaupt wegfallen. Aber nach dem Tode hat der Mensch ganz gewiß keine Augen und keine Ohren. Was er also durch Augen und Ohren aufnimmt, das kann er nicht anders als durch die Erinnerung durch die Pforte des Todes tragen. Darüber sollte es weiter kein Nachdenken geben, daß man das, was durch Augen und Ohren, überhaupt durch die Sinne aufgenommen wird, nur als Erinnerung durch die Pforte des Todes tragen kann. Ebenso ist es mit allem, was wir uns als Vorstellungen bilden, die durch die Sinneseindrücke veranlaßt sind. Und nun brauchen Sie nur darüber nachzudenken, was alles beim Eintritt in die geistige Welt zurückgelassen werden muß: alles wird zurückgelassen, was durch äußere Eindrücke an den Menschen herankommt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":253,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p016"},{"locus":"GA 157/1915-01-26/p017","passage_number":17,"text":"Was muß also eine Vorstellung, die man durch die Pforte des Todes tragen soll, für eine Eigenschaft haben? Sie darf ganz gewiß nicht von irgendeinem äußeren Eindrucke hergenommen sein, und sie muß ganz gewiß die Eigenschaft haben, daß der materialistisch Gesinnte sagen kann: Was du dir da vorstellst, das ist ja gar nicht vorhanden; denn das kann man nicht mit Augen sehen, nicht mit Ohren hören. Also es muß eine solche Vorstellung die Eigenschaft haben, daß man ihren Gegenstand nicht äußerlich wahrnehmen kann, denn was man äußerlich wahrnehmen kann, das kann als Vorstellung nicht durch die Pforte des Todes gehen. Ich möchte hierbei bemerken, daß der Materialismus schon dadurch zu solchen Einwendungen verführt wird, daß er immerfort von Sein oder Nichtsein spricht und nicht recht weiß, was es eigentlich mit diesem Sein und Nichtsein auf sich hat. Es genügt für uns jetzt, daß wir bei der deutschen Sprache stehenbleiben. «Sein» ist von «sehen» hergenommen, kommt überhaupt von «sehen» her. Über dasjenige also, was mit dem Seinsbegriff belegt wird, wird überhaupt nichts anderes gesagt als: ich habe es einmal gesehen. Und alles sonstige Gerede über das Sein ist überhaupt nichts anderes als eine Verständigung über das, was gesehen worden ist. Daraus sollte man den Schluß ziehen, daß man in bezug auf die Dinge, welche man durch die Pforte des Todes trägt, nicht von Sein sprechen soll, denn das würde heißen: man muß diese Dinge mit physischen Augen gesehen haben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":238,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p017"},{"locus":"GA 157/1915-01-26/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Was wollten denn eigentlich die Religionsstifter den Menschen mit ihren Vorstellungen geben?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":12,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p018"},{"locus":"GA 157/1915-01-26/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"Sie wollten den Menschen solche Vorstellungen geben, welche den Geist innerlich stark machen, innerlich mit Leuchtekraft ausstatten, so daß der Mensch, wenn er durch die Pforte des Todes in die übersinnliche Welt geht, in diese so eintritt, daß er sein eigener Leuchter ist, daß er die Dinge dort von sich aus zu beleuchten in der Lage ist. Es kommt den Menschen sehr leicht an zu sagen: Wenn ich mir da von den übersinnlichen Welten erzählen lasse, wie kann ich dann wissen, daß alle diese Vorstellungen wirklich richtig sind? Denn nehmen wir einmal an, es verbreite jemand Vorstellungen über die übersinnliche Welt, diese Vorstellungen würden von einer Anzahl von Menschen angenommen - und sie wären falsch, oder einseitig, oder ste entsprächen nicht in demselben Sinne dem Richtigen, wie man so vom Richtigen spricht, wenn man über die äußere physische Welt spricht. Nehmen wir also an, diese Vorstellungen wären falsch, und eine Anzahl von Menschen hätten sie angenommen. In solchem Falle wäre es noch immer besser, wenn die Menschen diese falschen Vorstellungen angenommen hätten, als wenn sie gar keine Vorstellungen über die übersinnliche Welt aufgenommen hätten. Denn warum? Es ist deshalb besser, weil unsere Seele sich anstrengen muß, wenn sie überhaupt Vorstellungen über die übersinnliche Welt annimmt. Ob man richtige oder falsche Vorstellungen annimmt, man muß sich anstrengen, und diese Anstrengung zählt in der geistigen Welt, wenn wir durch die Pforte des Todes gehen. Diese Anstrengung ist es, die uns nach dem Tode zugute kommt, oder die uns überhaupt zugute kommt, wenn wir in die geistige Welt hineingehen. Denn nehmen wir an, wir hätten uns mit einer ganz verkehrten Anschauung über die geistige Welt durchdrungen, so haben wir dadurch, daß wir sie in uns aufgenommen haben, so wie ein Turner die Glieder ausbildet, unsere Seelenkräfte ausgebildet. Und was wir ausgebildet haben, das haben wir dann, das tragen wir hinein in die geistige Welt. Indem wir das hineintragen in die geistige Welt, haben wir dann dort etwas Ähnliches, wie wir hier dadurch haben, daß wir Augen haben. Wir sind dann nicht mehr blind in der geistigen Welt. Selbst wenn der Fall eintreten sollte, daß alles falsch wäre, was wir so aufgenommen haben, und wir uns überhaupt nur angestrengt haben, so haben wir dadurch unser seelisches Auge ausgebildet und haben nun die Möglichkeit zu sehen, was in der geistigen Welt vorhanden ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":388,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-01-26/p019"}],"beads":[{"from":[23],"to":[16],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[24],"to":[17],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[25],"to":[18],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[26,27],"to":[19],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}