{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 157/1915-03-02_02/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"For you see, it is like this: Unity and plurality are concepts that only apply to the physical world. And now people are thinking these things must also apply to the spiritual world. But there they do not apply. There we have to be prepared to see a unity at one moment and then having to overcome this unity the next moment, and that it will show itself to to be a plurality. It is unity and plurality at one and the same time. Nor is it possible to transfer ordinary arithmetic, physical mathematics, to the spiritual world. It is one of the most powerful, and at the same time also most profound, Ahrimanic prejudices—wanting to apply concepts we have acquired in the physical world just as they are to the spiritual world. We really must arrive on its threshold without bag and baggage, unencumbered with all we have learned in the physical world. We have to be prepared to leave things behind on the threshold. All concepts and ideas, and, indeed, especially the concepts we have made great effort to achieve, have to be left behind. We have to be prepared to accept that in the spiritual world something quite new is given. Man has an enormous tendency to cling to what is given in the physical world. He wants to take his achievements from the physical world into the spiritual world. Yet it must be possible for him to face a clean slate, face utter emptiness, where his only guide will be the thought that is beginning to assume life. This entry into the spiritual world has been called the Door of Death because it is really much more of a death even than Physical death. In physical death people are convinced they put aside their physical body. On entry into the spiritual world we must resolve really to put aside our concepts and ideas and to allow our essential nature to be rebuilt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. Three Decisions on the Path of Imaginative Perception","site_heading":null,"date":"1915-03-02","location":null,"word_count":326,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/157/1915-03-02_02/p015","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Anna R. Meuss","identified_edition":"RSP1987","book_title":"The Destinies of Individuals and of Nations","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA157/English/RSP1987/19150302p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Das gehört zu den stärksten, aber auch intimsten ahrimanischen Vorurteilen, daß man die Begriffe, die man sich angeeignet hat in der physischen Welt, so wie sie sind, in die geistige Welt hineintragen will. Aber man muß wirklich ohne Sack und Pack, ohne beschwert zu sein mit dem, was man in der physischen Welt gelernt hat, ankommen an ihrer Schwelle; bereit, es an ihrer Schwelle zurückzulassen. Alle Begriffe, gerade auch diejenigen Begriffe, um die man sich am meisten abgemüht hat, muß man zurücklassen und sich darauf gefaßt machen: da, in der geistigen Welt, da werden einem auch neue Begriffe gegeben, da wird einem ganz Neues gewährt. Dieses Hängen an dem, was die physische Welt gibt, ist ungeheuer stark beim Menschen. Er will dasjenige, was er in der physischen Welt erobert hat, hineintragen in die geistige Welt. Aber er muß die Möglichkeit haben, vor einer vollständigen Tabula rasa zu stehen, vor einer vollständigen Leerheit zu stehen, und nur den Gedanken, der anfängt sich zu beleben, seinen Führer sein lassen. Man hat diesen Eingang in die geistige Welt die Pforte des Todes genannt aus dem Grunde, weil es eigentlich wirklich ein stärkerer Tod noch ist als der physische Tod. Im physischen Tode sind die Menschen überzeugt davon, daß sie ihren physischen Leib ablegen; aber wir müssen uns entschließen bei dem Eintritt in die geistige Welt, auch wirklich unsere Begriffe, unsere Vorstellungen und Ideen abzulegen und unser Wesen neu aufbauen zu lassen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":332,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157/1915-03-02_02/p015"}],"english":["GA 157/1915-03-02_02/p015"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":332,"en_words":326,"ratio":0.98,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.09,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8975,"original_word_count":8218,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Anna R. 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