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Das Schwierige ist, daß wir nicht mehr unterscheiden können, was sich auf uns bezieht und was draußen ist in der Welt. Wir lernen geistige Wesenheiten kennen, Elementargeister. Eine ganz umfängliche geistige Welt kann man erkennen lernen, auch ohne durch die Pforte des Todes zu gehen, aber es sind zumeist geistige Wesenheiten, welche die Aufgabe haben, den menschlichen Blutlauf, die menschliche Herztätigkeit zu unterhalten. Solche Wesenheiten sind in der geistigen, der elementaren Welt um uns herum ja immer da. Es sind Geister, die ihr Lebenselement in der Luft, in der uns umfließenden Wärme und auch im Licht haben, die auch ihr Lebenselement in den ja physisch nicht mehr wahrnehmbaren Sphärentönen haben, geistige Wesenheiten, die alles Lebendige durchweben und durchziehen. In diese Welt kommen wir dann natürlich hinein. Und verführerisch wird die Sache, weil ja wirklich die wunderbarsten geistigen Entdeckungen gemacht werden können in dieser Welt. 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