{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 157a/1915-11-20/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And if here someone is a practical materialist and does not believe in idealism, then he loves existence only. But in order that this conviction of the merely obvious existence may not spread, there continually arise from time to time the Idealists, who lead humanity to believe in ideals and their efficacy, in the power of Idealism in the progress of history. These ideals of the ethical, the beautiful, the religious, are carried into the world. Certainly the absolute materialists will have nothing to do with them; at most they dispose of them in a few words. But just that which in the material sense does not seem to exist, is carried into the physical plane as the most precious thing in life. And if the evolution of humanity on the earth be considered from a higher human point of view, then one may say: Certainly nature is there, great and significant. But what would this whole human life be if existing nature alone were there, be it ever so beautiful: if man were not capable of having ideals, if he could not be spurred forward, not by that which does not exist, but by that which ought to exist, the ethical, religious, artistic, and educational life. It is the non-existing, we might say, that presses in on us from a spiritual world, as the ideals of humanity, that which does not exist but that ought to exist, that alone makes life valuable. Everyone who is not utterly submerged in the swamp of materialism feels this very strongly. And so those who in the course of history are in a special sense the bringers of ideals appear as those who alone give value to the life of existence, out of that which ought to exist. And now to the spiritual investigator the following appears. From the spiritual world one looks back in like manner at the earthly life, but in such a way that, as a higher soul, one longs that everything on the earth should not merely exist; but that among the things on the earth there should be something which is not earthly, in the strictest sense of the words. Something else must be mingled with the earth-existence, which in the earth-sense has no existence. This appears as something infinitely significant, when the spiritual investigator perceives it in connection with those people who were destined for a long life, and were forcibly cut off. So that there is a portion of their life which from the spiritual standpoint was really destined for existence, and which has not lived it out. Let us take the case of a man who has lived in the world only to his twenty-fifth or twenty-sixth year instead of to his seventieth or eightieth, for which he had the necessary life forces. Then, let us say, he is struck by a shell. The principles of his human nature are suddenly sundered from one another. The etheric body, astral body and Ego would still have been able for a long time to develop the faculty of maintaining the physical body. That which would have been able to continue but for the shot, was intended for the earth existence. It has not passed into existence. From the spiritual this appears so that one can say, ‘Down there is something which does not merely exist.’ Something else is mingled with the earth existence, something that was destined for existence, but which has not lived through it. It is existence, but merely in germ. Yet in a sense it is something that ought to exist. Therefore those whose life is thus ended at an early stage through an external happening, are to the spiritual world, when they go through the gates of death, in a similar yet not the same sense, spiritual messengers, as are the Idealists who come here on the earth, to mix with the existing that which ought to exist. Those who go early through the gates of death, ascend in order to announce to the heavens that on the earth there is not only mere existence, but also that which ought to exist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"3. The Subconscious Strata of the Soul-Life and the Life of the Spirit After Premature Death","site_heading":null,"date":"1915-11-20","location":null,"word_count":689,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/157a/1915-11-20/p014","alignment_confidence":"low","alignment_reason":"count_diverges","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Henry Collison","identified_edition":"APC1927","book_title":"The Forming of Destiny and Life after Death","publisher":"Anthroposophical Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA157a/English/APC1927/19151120p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Und wenn man von einem höheren menschlichen Gesichtspunkte aus die Entwickelung der Menschheit über die Erde betrachtet, so sagt man sich: Gewiß, die Natur ist groß, ist bedeutend; sie ist «da». Aber was wäre dieses ganze menschliche Leben, wenn nur die seiende Natur wäre - und wäre sie noch so schön -, wenn der Mensch nicht Ideale haben könnte, wenn er nicht angespornt werden könnte, nicht von dem Seienden, sondern von dem Sein-Sollenden des sittlichen, des religiösen, des künstlerischen, des pädagogischen Lebens? Das Nicht-Seiende, möchte ich sagen, das hereindringt aus einer geistigen Welt als die Ideale der Menschheit — das Nicht-Seiende, aber Sein-Sollende, das macht das Leben erst wertvoll. Das empfindet jeder gut, der nicht ganz im Sumpfe des Materialismus untergegangen ist. Und so erscheinen die, die im Laufe der Geschichte auftreten und im besonderen Sinne Träger der Ideale sind, als diejenigen, die das seiende Leben aus dem Sein-Sollenden erst wertvoll machen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":261,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157a/1915-11-20/p021"},{"locus":"GA 157a/1915-11-20/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Und für den Geistesforscher stellt sich nun heraus: Von der geistigen Welt sieht man in einer ähnlichen Weise zurück auf das irdische Leben, aber so, daß man als höhere Seele Verlangen trägt danach, daß nicht alles auf dieser Erde bloß «ist», daf} es unter dem, was auf die Erde getreten ist, auch etwas gibt, was nicht im eminentesten Sinne nach Erdenart «ist». Es muß etwas beigemischt sein dem Erdensein, was nicht im gewöhnlichen Erdensinne ist. Und dies stellt sich heraus, ich möchte sagen, als etwas unendlich Bedeutungsvolles, wenn es sich dem Geistesforscher ergibt, bei denjenigen Leben, die veranlagt waren für ein langes Leben und gewaltsam abgeschnitten worden sind, so daß wir einen Teil eines solchen Lebens haben, der vom jenseitigen Standpunkte aus angesehen eigentlich für das Sein bestimmt war und dieses Sein nicht ausgelebt hat. Nehmen wir an, ein Mensch hat, statt bis zum siebzigsten, achtzigsten Jahre nach seinen Lebenskräften, nur bis zum fünfundzwanzigsten, sechsundzwanzigsten Jahre in der Welt gelebt. Dann wurde er, sagen wir, von einer Kugel getroffen. Seine Glieder der Menschennatur wurden plötzlich auseinandergelöst. Der Ätherleib, der Astralleib und das Ich hätten noch lange die Gabe entwickeln können, den physischen Leib zu erhalten. Das, was da noch hätte folgen können nach dem Schüsse, das ist für das Erdendasein bestimmt gewesen; es ist nicht im Sein aufgegangen. Das nimmt sich aber von jenseits aus gesehen so aus, daß man sieht: Da unten ist nicht bloß Seiendes, da unten ist dem Erdensein auch etwas beigemischt, was zum Sein bestimmt ist, aber nicht das Sein durchlebt hat, Sein, das bloß der Anlage nach vorhanden ist. Auch Sein-Sollendes im gewissen Sinne. Daher sind diejenigen, die ihr Leben also früh endigen durch eine äußere Veranlassung, indem sie durch die Todespforte gehen, für die geistige Welt in einem ähnlichen Sinne - nur in einem ähnlichen Sinne, nicht im gleichen Sinne — geistige Boten wie die Idealisten, die hier auf die Erde kommen, um dem Seienden das Sein-Sollende beizumischen. So steigen herauf diejenigen, die früh durch die Pforte des Todes gegangen sind, um dem Himmel Kunde zu bringen, daß da unten auf der Erde auch Sein-Sollendes, nicht bloß Seiendes ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":355,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/157a/1915-11-20/p022"}],"english":["GA 157a/1915-11-20/p014"],"method":"reader","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":616,"en_words":689,"ratio":1.12,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 157a/1915-11-20/p021","GA 157a/1915-11-20/p022"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6993,"original_word_count":6738,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Henry Collison","identified_edition":"APC1927","book_title":"The Forming of Destiny and Life after Death","publisher":"Anthroposophical Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA157a/English/APC1927/19151120p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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