{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 161/1915-01-10/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We have said that in meeting man in the physical world, we have the physical body as coming from the Old Saturn evolution, the etheric from the Old Sun evolution; the astral body from the Old Moon, and the Ego. And when we look at man externally and observe his form it is solely this embodiment of the ego which is not a relic from other periods of evolution. It is the laws of Earth which prevail and are active when the ego fashions man for itself and embodies itself. The laws of the Moon evolution, the laws of the astral body have already withdrawn and are no longer outwardly active. Now if we encounter a man we shall say: “You, O Man, as you confront me as material man are an embodiment of the Ego. But deep in the background of your being lies your invisible personal destiny.” How this invisible human destiny is determined comes under the rule of ancient Saturn laws. There we are already appealing to something entirely spiritual when, from the earthly laws of the embodiment of the Ego, we look towards the ancient Saturn laws. If, however, we look from what stands before us in the human being towards what still prevails in him from the Old Moon laws we find something not so spiritual. But this too has withdrawn from the external activity of the world, this too is not directly under the active forces of Earth-existence.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Perception of the Nature of Thought","site_heading":null,"date":"1915-01-10","location":null,"word_count":244,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/161/1915-01-10/p011","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"M. 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Aber sie sind so, daß wir, wenn wir dem Menschen gegenübertreten, sagen werden: Du, Mensch, bist, wie du mir gegenübertreten als materieller Mensch, eine Verkörperung des Ich. Aber tief im Hintergrunde deines Wesens liegt dein unsichtbares, persönliches Schicksal. Wie dieses unsichtbare, persönliche Schicksal bestimmt ist, so walten in ihm die alten Saturngesetze. Da appellieren wir schon an etwas ganz Geistiges, wenn wir von der Verkörperung des Ich, also von den Erdengesetzen, auf die alten Saturngesetze hinblicken. Nicht etwas so Geistiges ist es, wenn wir von dem, was vor uns steht im Menschen, hinblicken auf das, was in ihm von den alten Mondengesetzen noch waltet. Aber auch das hat sich zurückgezogen von der äußeren Weltwirksamkeit, auch das ist nicht so unmittelbar sozusagen unter den Wirkungskräften des Erdendaseins.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":227,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/161/1915-01-10/p011"}],"english":["GA 161/1915-01-10/p011"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":227,"en_words":244,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.99,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6461,"original_word_count":6540,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"M. 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