{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 161/1915-01-10/p029","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Think of the great difference between this and the thoughts of Plato and Aristotle: Plato and Aristotle perceived thoughts and therefore they could not doubt that the thoughts were outside. Now, in the third period men became aware: ‘One creates thoughts oneself ... well, then, what have thoughts to do with objective existence outside?’ And so the need arose to give certainty to thinking,—to prove thinking as was said. Only in this period could it occur to Anselm of Canterbury, for instance, to create validity for the idea of God;—for one did not see thoughts as perception. In the former Greek thinking that would have been a complete nonsense, because at that time thoughts were perceived. How can one doubt that God exists when thoughts of the Godhead are as clearly to be seen outside as the greenness of the tree? Doubt first began in the third period when men became aware that they themselves produced the thoughts. The need arose to establish the connection of that which one thinks with that which is outside. In essentials this is the epoch of scholasticism—the becoming aware of the subjectivity of thinking.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Perception of the Nature of Thought","site_heading":null,"date":"1915-01-10","location":null,"word_count":190,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/161/1915-01-10/p029","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"M. 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Plato und Aristoteles nahmen Gedanken wahr; da konnten sie nicht zweifeln, daß die Gedanken draußen sind. Jetzt, in der dritten Epoche, wurden sich die Menschen bewußt: Man erzeugt selber den Gedanken, und sie begannen zu fragen: Ja, was haben denn die Gedanken mit dem objektiven Sein draußen zu tun? - Und nun entstand das Bedürfnis, dem Denken Sicherheit zu geben, wie man sagte, das Denken zu beweisen. Erst in dieser Epoche konnte zum Beispiel Anselm von Canterbury daran denken, einen Beweis für die Gültigkeit der Idee Gottes zu schaffen. Das wäre früher völliger Unsinn gewesen in dem griechischen Denken, aus dem Grunde, weil man da die Gedanken gesehen hat. Wie soll man zweifeln, daß Gott existiert, wenn man so sieht, außen, die Gedanken der Gottheit, wie man draußen sieht die Grünheit des Baumes? Der Zweifel begann erst in der dritten Epoche, als man sich klar wurde, daß man selbst es ist, der denkt. Es entstand das Bedürfnis, zu beweisen, nachzudenken über den Zusammenhang dessen, was man denkt, mit dem, was da draußen ist. Und das ist im wesentlichen die Epoche der Scholastik: das Gewahrwerden der Subjektivität des Denkens.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":201,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/161/1915-01-10/p028"}],"english":["GA 161/1915-01-10/p029"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":201,"en_words":190,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.99,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6461,"original_word_count":6540,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"M. 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