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Then people will also better understand how differently, for example, the Christ nature was bound to the Jesus nature than, let us say, the consciousness soul was bound to the mind soul. The consciousness soul is, of course, always mixed with the mind soul. But the spirit soul [the German: *Geistselbst*, the spirit self] is connected to the consciousness soul, not mixed with it. And this is the concept that Tertullian really developed. He says: Christ is not mixed with Jesus, but connected. The one God-man, Christ Jesus, presented Himself to him in order to illustrate to him once again in the age in which this old conceptual clairvoyance was no longer present how the divine and the physical soul were connected in human nature. The Christ appears before Tertullian as the representative of all humanity. Through the Christ, he studied the constitution of man in order to understand Christ Jesus. The Christ became the center of his entire thinking, which could no longer be applied to the one human nature. And because Tertullian had realized that Christ is not mixed with Jesus, but connected - he could not say as we would say: like the spirit self with the consciousness soul - but he said: not mixed, but connected - through this it emerged for him, that he said: everything that Christ has connected with, also comes from the spirit of the world; that is the father principle in the world. For Tertullian, the Father principle became that which, so to speak, belonged to the earthly manifestation of Jesus. There lies the father principle, the creative principle in nature, that which brings forth everything in nature. The Christ principle united with this, the son principle. 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In ancient times, when there were still clairvoyant concepts, it was not particularly difficult to imagine this. But for the time when everything falls apart through concepts and nothing can be properly connected anymore, the difficulty arose. Tertullian used a nice comparison to make it clear how one can be three and three one. He said: Take the source. From the source comes the brook, from the brook comes the river. If we ask about the river, we say: It comes from the spring through the brook; from the spring through the brook. Or take, he said, for comparison the roots, the shoots, the fruit: the fruit comes from the root through the shoot. — Tertullian needed a third comparison, saying: The little flame of light comes from the sun, carried through the cosmos. Thus, he said, one must imagine that the Spirit comes from the Father through the Son. 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By thinking in terms of the father principle – that is, in terms of that which is always the source from which the spirit principle comes through the son principle: the natural, the externally created, the externally revealed; in terms of the son principle, that which permeates the penetrates the externally revealed; and with the spirit principle, that which is brought about for earthly development by both together, he formed a doctrine for himself, but which was basically only a single symptomatic expression of what was developing in general in these first centuries of Christianity among people who, on the one hand, still had something of Gnosticism in them, and at the same time were suffering all the pains and afflictions because Gnosticism was bound to be lost. These people were now trying to come to terms with what Christ Jesus was, and what He had to be in order to fulfill the goal of the Mystery of Golgotha. 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If we look more closely, however, we find that behind this vain dreaming there is a tremendous struggle to grasp what had just become relevant for the world through the Mystery of Golgotha on the one hand, and through the loss of the old clairvoyant knowledge, the gradual fading away of the old clairvoyant knowledge, on the other.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":97,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/165/1916-01-16/p033","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"The Conceptual World and Its Relationship to Reality","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA165/English/SOL2025/19160116p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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For if I were to communicate what needs to be said without further ado, many a head would be turned by it.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":109,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/165/1916-01-16/p034","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"The Conceptual World and Its Relationship to Reality","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA165/English/SOL2025/19160116p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Now the following developed: The common development gradually separated in such a way that one developmental stream clearly continued, which was directed primarily towards the Holy Spirit – not as the first in time; the first in time is, of course, the coming together – and this is the one that is still essentially embodied today in the Russian Orthodox Church. However strange it may seem, the essential feature of the Russian Orthodox Church is that it primarily honors only the Holy Spirit. And you will recognize from the way, for example, Solowjew speaks about Christ, that he is primarily well-versed in grasping Christianity from the side of the Holy Spirit. It does not depend on whether he consciously speaks about Christ or not, but on which spirit rules in him, which meaning he connects with the things. What matters is the inner aspect, especially the way in which he inseparably regards the external social order of the church in relation to what is taught and is cult. This is entirely out of the nature of the Holy Spirit. The early Church, however, wanted to avoid this mere knowledge of the Holy Spirit by setting up the Trinity in the Creed and adding the Christ and the Father to the Holy Spirit. But these three must – which is also Solowjew's ideal – come together again in a kind of synthesis.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":345,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/165/1916-01-16/p035","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"The Conceptual World and Its Relationship to Reality","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA165/English/SOL2025/19160116p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Da sind verschiedene Auseinandersetzungen darüber, wie sich das Geistselbst in die Bewußtseinsseele hineinarbeitet. Das ist aber genau auch die Stelle, die man ins Auge fassen muß, wenn man in das Verweilen des Christus in dem Menschen Jesus hineinschauen will, wenn man das verstehen will. Das ist die Voraussetzung, daß man weiß, wie in der allgemeinen Menschheit das Geistselbst in die Bewußtseinsseele hineinkommt; das ist Voraussetzung, wie man verstehen kann, wie die Christus-Natur als ein besonderes kosmisches Geistselbst in die Bewußtseinsseelennatur des Jesus von Nazareth hineinkam. Nur ein Surrogat für dies fand Tertullian, und man kann das, was er sich als einen Begriff ausbildete, so fassen, wie wenn man heute sagte: Es findet keine Vermischung statt - nach Tertullian - zwischen dem Christus, entsprechend dem Geistselbst, und dem Jesus, entsprechend der Bewußtseinsseele und allem, was an niederen Wesensgliedern dazugehört, keine Vermischung, sondern nur eine Verbindung. Und solche Verbindung wird die Menschheit auch nur dann kennenlernen, wenn das Geistselbst einmal ordnungsgemäß da sein wird. Jetzt leben wir im Zeitalter der Bewußtseinsseele. Jeder Mensch wird etwas viel Loseres im Zusammenhang haben, wenn das Geistselbst im sechsten nachatlantischen Zeitraum regelmäßig entwickelt sein wird. Da werden die Menschen auch besser verstehen, wie anders zum Beispiel die Christus-Natur an die Jesus-Natur gebunden war, als, sagen wir, die Bewußtseinsseele an die Verstandesseele. Die Bewußtseinsseele ist mit der Verstandesseele selbstverständlich innerlich immer vermischt. Aber das Geistselbst ist mit der Bewußtseinsseele verbunden, nicht vermischt. Und diesen Begriff bildete sich Tertullian wirklich aus. Er sagt: Nicht vermischt ist der Christus mit dem Jesus, sondern verbunden. So stellte sich ihm der eine Gottmensch hin, der Christus Jesus, um an ihm sich noch einmal im Zeitalter, in dem dies alte begriffliche Hellsehen nicht mehr da war, zu veranschaulichen, wie das Göttliche und das Physisch-Seelische in der Menschennatur miteinander verbunden war. Der Christus tritt gleichsam vor diesen Tertullian wie der Repräsentant der allgemeinen Menschheit hin. An dem Christus studierte er die Konstitution des Menschen, um den Christus Jesus zu verstehen. Der Christus trat in den Mittelpunkt seines ganzen Denkens, das jetzt nicht mehr auf die eine menschliche Natur anwendbar war. Und dadurch, daß Tertullian sich klargemacht hat: Nicht vermischt ist der Christus mit dem Jesus, sondern verbunden - er konnte nicht sagen, wie wir sagen würden: wie das Geistselbst mit der Bewußtseinsseele -, aber er sagte: nicht vermischt, sondern verbunden -, dadurch trat für ihn hervor, daß er sich sagte: Alles dasjenige, womit sich der Christus verbunden hat, das kommt auch aus dem Geiste der Welt heraus; das ist das Vaterprinzip in der Welt. - Das Vaterprinzip wurde für Tertullian dasjenige, was sozusagen zu der irdischen Erscheinung des Jesus gehörte. Da liegt das Vaterprinzip, das schöpferische Prinzip in der Natur, dasjenige, was alles hervorbringt in der Natur. Mit dem vereinigte sich das Christus-Prinzip, das Sohnesprinzip. So wurde es für Tertullian, und durch den Vater und den Sohn, durch Läuterung des Äußeren, Natürlichen, durch den Christus, entsteht nun wiederum der Geist, den er den Heiligen Geist nennt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":539,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p024"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p025","passage_number":25,"text":"So war dasjenige, was in der Zeit des Mysteriums von Golgatha als der Christus Jesus dasteht, als Jesus hervorgehend aus dem Vaterprinzip, wie alles in der Welt aus dem Vaterprinzip hervorgeht. So war dieser Christus Jesus, dadurch, daß er den Christus in sich trug, der aus dem Vaterprinzip hervorgehende Sohn, der einfach später gekommen war, der Bringer des Geistes — des Geistes, der dann erst wiederum von ihm kommt. So suchte Tertullian den Weg von dem einzelnen Menschen zum Kosmos hinaus zu finden: zum Vater-, Sohn- und Geistprinzip.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":88,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p025"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p026","passage_number":26,"text":"> Jesus Vater  \n> Christus Sohn  \n> Heiliger Geist","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":9,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p026"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"Nun entstand für ihn die große Schwierigkeit, begreiflich zu machen, wie drei eins und eins drei sein könne. Für die alten Zeiten, wo es noch hellseherische Begriffe gab, war es gar keine besondere Schwierigkeit, sich das vorzustellen. Aber für die Zeit, in der durch Begriffe alles auseinanderfällt und nichts mehr recht verbunden werden kann, entstand die Schwierigkeit. Tertullian brauchte einen hübschen Vergleich, um klarzumachen, wie eins drei und drei eins sein kann. Er sagte: Nehmt die Quelle. Aus der Quelle kommt der Bach, aus dem Bach kommt der Fluß. Fragen wir nach dem Flusse, so sagen wir: Er kommt aus der Quelle durch den Bach; aus der Quelle durch den Bach. - Oder nehmet, sagte er, zum Vergleiche die Wurzeln, den Sprossen, die Frucht: die Frucht kommt aus der Wurzel durch den Sprossen. — Noch einen dritten Vergleich brauchte Tertullian, indem er sagte: Das Lichtflämmchen kommt aus der Sonne, durch den Kosmos getragen. So, sagte er, muß man sich vorstellen, daß der Geist aus dem Vater durch den Sohn kommt. Und so wenig diese Dreiheit: Quelle, Bach, Fluß der Einheit widerspricht, die der Fluß der Wirklichkeit nach ist, so wenig widerspricht die Tatsache, daß der Geist aus dem Vater durch den Sohn kommt, dem einheitlichen Sich-Hinentwickeln von Vater, Sohn und Geist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":211,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p027"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"So suchte er sich klarzumachen, wie die drei eins sein können: so wie Wurzeln, Sprosse und Frucht, so wie Quelle, Bach und Fluß. Und er versuchte auch eine gewisse Formel zu gewinnen. Dadurch, daß er bei dem Vaterprinzip — also bei dem, was immer dasjenige ist, aus dem durch das Sohnesprinzip das Geistprinzip kommt -, daß er bei dem Vaterprinzip dachte: das Natürliche, das äußerlich Geschaffene, das äußerlich Offenbare; bei dem Sohnesprinzip dasjenige, was das äußerlich Offenbare durchdringt; und bei dem Geistprinzip dasjenige, was dann durch beides zusammen für die Erdenentwickelung gebracht wird, dadurch bildete sich ihm eine Lehre aus, die aber im Grunde genommen nur ein einzelner symptomatischer Ausdruck für das war, was in diesen ersten Jahrhunderten des Christentums sich überhaupt ausbildete bei den Leuten, die auf der einen Seite noch etwas von der Gnosis in sich hatten, zu gleicher Zeit all die Schmerzen und Leiden durchmachten, weil die Gnosis verlorengehen mußte, und die nun zugleich mit dem zurechtzukommen suchten, was der Christus Jesus war, was er sein mußte zu dem Ziele des Mysteriums von Golgatha. Tertullian ist nur ein besonders genialischer, aber er ist eben ein Repräsentant desjenigen, was man in diesen ersten Zeiten des Christentums dachte, um wirklich geistig zu durchdringen, was geschehen war.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":207,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p028"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p029","passage_number":29,"text":"Nun bildete sich dann aus dem Christentum dasjenige heraus, was Sie ja kennen als das Credo, als das Apostolikum, das dann so im 3.,4. Jahrhundert sich festsetzte und dann auch durch die Konzilien festgesetzt worden ist. Wenn man dies studiert, so wie es in der damaligen Zeit war, dann findet man schon heraus: Es ist im Grunde ein Sich-Wehren gegen die Gnosis, ein Ablehnen der Gnosis, weil man den luziferischen Faktor in der Gnosis verspürte. Die Gnosis neigt zu Luzifer hin, das heißt, zu einem einseitigen spirituellen Auffassen. Sie kann daher zu dem Vaterprinzip durchaus nicht kommen, kann es nicht ordentlich würdigen. Das Materielle wird ihr ein zu Verschmähendes, etwas, was sie nicht brauchen kann. Ihr gegenüber muß festgelegt werden: Ich glaube an Gott den Vater, den allmächtigen Vater — der erste Teil des Credos. Gegen die Verachtung des Materiellen ist dieser erste Teil des Credos gefaßt, so gefaßt, daß auch das Äußerliche, das mit Augen gesehen wird, als ein Göttliches, und gerade ein Göttliches, das aus dem Vaterprinzip hervorgeht, gefaßt wird.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":172,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p029"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p030","passage_number":30,"text":"Das zweite war: gegen die Gnosis festzulegen, daß es nicht bloß einen ätherischen Christus gab in der Zeit des Mysteriums von Golgatha, sondern daß dieser Christus wirklich verbunden war mit dem Menschen Jesus von Nazareth, nicht vermischt, aber verbunden. Es mußte also auf der einen Seite festgelegt werden, daß der Christus zusammenhing mit dem Geistigen, und auf der andern Seite, daß der Christus zusammenhing mit dem Jesus von Nazareth, der natürlichen Entwickelung auf der Erde, und daß, wenn sich das Leiden, das Sterben, das Auferstehen und alles das vollzogen hat, was noch geschehen wird in Anlehnung an das Mysterium von Golgatha, daß das nicht etwas ist, woran der Christus nicht teilnimmt, sondern daß er wirklich im Leibe leidet. Die Gnostiker mußten leugnen, daß der Christus im Leibe gelitten hat, weil er ja nicht mit dem Leibe verbunden war; es war nur ein Scheinleiden für die Gnostiker, wenigstens für gewisse Gnostiker. — Demgegenüber sollte festgestellt werden, daß der Christus mit dem Leib wirklich so verbunden war, daß er im Leibe litt. Also all die Ereignisse, die sich auf dem äußeren physischen Plan vollzogen hatten, sollten verbunden werden mit dem Christus. Daher: Ich glaube an Jesus Christus, den eingeborenen Sohn Gottes, geboren aus dem Heiligen Geist und Maria der Jungfrau, der gelitten hat unter Pontius Pilatus, gestorben ist, am dritten Tage auferstanden ist, der in den Himmel aufgefahren — das heißt: wieder geistig geworden - ist, der da sitzet zur Rechten des Vaters, zu richten die Lebendigen und die Toten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":248,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p030"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Man kann nun sagen: Am nächsten kamen die Gnostiker noch dem Geiste, der zunächst als ein bloß Spirituelles anzusehen ist. Aber er ist ein Spirituelles insofern, als er zwar jetzt ein Spirituelles darstellt, aber sich allmählich verwirklichen muß im menschlichen Zusammenleben in dem sozialen Gebilde, das während der Jupiter-, Venus-, Vulkanzeit entsteht, wo der Heilige Geist sich verkörpert, jetzt nicht in einem einzelnen Menschen, sondern in der ganzen Menschheit, in der Konfiguration der Gesellschaft. Aber er ist jetzt erst im Anfang. Doch die Gnostiker konnten am ehesten verstehen, daß etwas nur spirituelles Dasein hat, nicht in das Materielle eingreift. Daher lag im Grunde genommen dem Gott der Gnostiker der Heilige Geist am allernächsten. Dies Christentum aber, das sich auf die Erde versetzen wollte, das nicht wollte, daß man den Geist verluziferisiert, in ihm nur etwas Spintuelles sieht, dies Christentum mußte jetzt auch den Glauben an den Geist festlegen als etwas, was mit dem Materiellen zusammenhängt: Ich glaube an den Heiligen Geist, an die heilige Kirche. — Das ist jetzt im Apostolikum darin, das heißt: die Kirche als ein großer physischer Leib des Heiligen Geistes. Dieses Christentum durfte auch nicht das Leben im Geiste als etwas bloß Innerliches betrachten, sondern mußte den Geist äußerlich realisiert haben durch die Sündenvergebung, indem die Kirche selber das Amt der Sündenvergebung und außerdem die Lehre von der fleischlichen Auferstehung übernahm: Ich glaube an den Heiligen Geist, an die heilige Kirche, an die Sündenvergebung, an des Fleisches Auferstehung.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":242,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p031"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"So ist ja das Credo etwa im 4. Jahrhundert. Es waren also lauter Barrikaden gegen die Gnosis, und es hängt die Art und Weise, wie diese drei Teile des Apostolikums gefaßt sind, eng zusammen, wie so etwas: der Fluß ist aus der Quelle durch den Bach, oder: die Frucht ist aus der Wurzel durch den Sprossen entstanden. — Ein ungeheures Streben ist in jener Zeit, zu erfassen, wie der Geist mit dem Materiellen, das in der Welt sich ausbreitet, zusammenhängt, wie man das Geistige zusammen denken kann mit dem Materiellen, die Trinität zusammen:denken kann mit dem äußerlich im Materiellen sich Ausbreitenden. Das wird gesucht; das wird intensiv gesucht. Aber wenn man sich entgegenhält, was da alles in dem heute völlig unverständlich gewordenen Apostolikum lebt, so muß man sagen: es lebt da darin noch der Nachklang der alten hellseherischen Begriffe, der nur im Ersterben ist, und deshalb gewinnt die Sache nicht die alten lebendigen Formen, die sie hätte gewinnen können, wenn man mit früheren hellseherischen Begriffen die Trinität und das Apostolikum hätte begreifen können, sondern es ist ein Anfang, das Materielle mit dem Geistigen zugleich zu fassen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":186,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p032"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p033","passage_number":33,"text":"Es gibt heute sehr viele Menschen, die sagen: Wozu befaßt man sich mit dieser alten Dogmatik? Da haben die Leute doch nur mit allerlei spintisierten Begriffen herumsinniert, aber daraus kann doch kein Mensch klug werden, das ist alles eitel Träumerei. - Wenn man genauer zusieht, so findet man allerdings, daß hinter dieser eitlen Träumerei ein gewaltiges Ringen steht, um das zu erfassen, was gerade aktuell geworden war für die Welt durch das Mysterium von Golgatha auf der einen Seite und durch das Abhandenkommen der alten hellseherischen Erkenntnis, das sachte Abfluten der alten hellseherischen Erkenntnis auf der andern Seite.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":98,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p033"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p034","passage_number":34,"text":"Nun geht die Entwickelung weiter, und es geschieht jetzt ein etwas Ähnliches, wie schon in älteren Zeiten geschehen ist, als aus der einen Wurzel der Mysterien heraus, wo noch Kunst und Religion und Wissenschaft eines waren, sich die drei herausentwickelt haben. Jetzt strebt wiederum dasjenige, was in jener gemeinsamen Wurzel ist, die man durch das Apostolikum zu erfassen suchte, in die Dreiheit auseinander. Ich will nun versuchen, diese weitere Entwickelung so darzustellen, wie man es heute darstellen kann, ohne daß man allzuviel Anstoß erregt. Denn würde ich dasjenige, was da zu sagen ist, so ohne weiteres mitteilen, so würde doch mancher Kopf scheu dadurch werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":105,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p034"},{"locus":"GA 165/1916-01-16/p035","passage_number":35,"text":"In drei getrennten Strömungen entwickelte sich jetzt innerhalb der abendländischen Kultur dasjenige, was von einer Einheit ausging. Das heißt, eine Strömung war besonders geeignet, den Geist, den Heiligen Geist zu erfassen, eine Strömung mehr den Sohn, den Christus, und eine Strömung mehr den Vater. Und das Kuriose ist dabei, daß immer mehr in getrennten Läufen der Entwickelung sich herausbildet die Heilig Geist-Strömung, die Christus-Strömung, und die Vaterströmung, aber einseitig. Denn natürlich, allseitig kann man es nur durchdringen, wenn man alle drei zusammen hat. Bildet man das, was als Dreiheit zu begreifen ist, so einseitig aus, dann entstehen Schwierigkeiten der Entwickelung; dann bleiben manche Dinge aus, und anderes degeneriert. Nun bildete sich das Folgende: Es trennte sich nach und nach die gemeinsame Entwickelung so, daß deutlich weiterging eine Entwickelungsströmung, welche vorzugsweise nach dem Heiligen Geist hingerichtet ist — nicht als zeitlich erste; die zeitlich erste ist natürlich das Zusammengehen -, und das ist diejenige, die heute noch immer wesentlich verkörpert ist in der russisch-orthodoxen Kirche. So sonderbar das ist, so ist das doch das Wesentliche der russisch-orthodoxen Kirche, daß sie vorzugsweise nur des Heiligen Geistes pflegt. Und Sie werden aus der Art und Weise, wie zum Beispiel Solowjew über Christus spricht, erkennen, daß er vorzugsweise bewandert ist, das Christentum von der Seite des Heiligen Geistes zu fassen. Es kommt nicht darauf an, ob er nun bewußt über Christus spricht oder nicht, sondern, welcher Geist in ihm waltet, welchen Sinn er mit den Dingen verbindet. Auf das Innere kommt es dabei an, insbesondere auch auf die Art und Weise, wie untrennbar er die äußere soziale Ordnung der Kirche im Verhältnis zu dem betrachtet, was gelehrt wird und Kultus ist. Das ist ganz aus dem Wesen des Heiligen Geistes heraus. Die Urkirche hat allerdings dieses bloße Wissen aus dem Heiligen Geist heraus vermeiden wollen, indem sie die Trinität im Credo aufgestellt hat und zu dem Heiligen Geist den Christus und den Vater hinzugefügt hat. Aber diese drei müssen sich — was ja auch Solowjews Ideal ist — wieder zu einer Art Synthesis zusammenfinden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":340,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/165/1916-01-16/p035"}],"beads":[{"from":[24],"to":[24],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[25],"to":[25],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[26],"to":[26],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[27],"to":[27],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[28],"to":[28],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[29],"to":[29],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[30],"to":[30],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[31],"to":[31],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[32],"to":[32],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[33],"to":[33],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[34],"to":[34],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[35],"to":[35],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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