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Let us assume that someone appeared in our time and wanted to speak in the same way as the author of the Bhagavad Gita spoke or as Buddha spoke in his time; that person would do something which would be perfectly valid for a time dating back centuries before the Mystery of Golgotha. One could say that if the person in question said that at that time when the Bhagavad Gita was brought forward, then it would be a correct deed in the evolutionary sense. However, if he appears today and tries to speak in the same sense as the Bhagavad Gita speaks, that is a Luciferic act and something which really was valid for an earlier period has been brought over into our time. A person who does that would extinguish the whole development of the intellect, of the power of conceptualization which has developed in the evolution of thinking. Now, I am not speaking about something abstract, but about all this because I want to bring a very significant concrete phenomena to your attention. A book appeared in 1912 entitled *The High Goal of Knowledge, The Aranada Upanashad* written by a man who signs his name as Omar al Rashid Bey. This Omar al Rashid Bey is really a very good German. We see that this book really belongs to the centuries before the Mystery of Golgotha and therefore today we have to grasp it as a Luciferic phenomenon.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":285,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/167/1916-05-30/p005","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1916-05-30","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 167/1916-05-30/p005","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/167/1916-05-30/p005"},{"locus":"GA 167/1916-05-30/p006","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/167/1916-05-30/p006"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 167/1916-05-30/p005","GA 167/1916-05-30/p006"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":461,"en_words":285,"ratio":0.62,"partial":true},"correspondence":"partial","note":"PARTIAL CORRESPONDENCE. 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As a matter of fact, my dear friends, that which Fichte, Hegel, Schelling and the others who I have mentioned in this book, what they have done is far superior to that which is contained in the oriental wisdom, contained in Brahmanism and the fact that human beings today do not recognize it is the result of the following. Usually it is very difficult for people to grasp the ideas in this book, and for that reason I have written about it in my book, The other reason is that we, in the main, do not have a talent to appreciate and look up to knowledge in the way possessed by the oriental. In this book entitled *The High Goal Of Knowledge* you will find not only that knowledge is imparted, but from the beginning to the end people are made to remember that what is being dealt with here is an elevated knowledge, and you have to reverence this knowledge highly and realize that it is available to specially selected people and is known by the highest masters of wisdom who have deigned to stoop down to enable you poor people to have this knowledge available to you. This sort of approach is what people like to get hold of, they think this is really good, especially when it starts off with something like this: “Peace and blessings be to you, oh dear ones.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":306,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/167/1916-05-30/p006","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. 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See witness_completeness for how much of the original this witness holds."}},{"passage_number":7,"locus":"GA 167/1916-05-30/p007","text":"When you compare this with the writings of the German classical philosophers who you will read about in this book which will appear shortly, you will find those people who have developed the new world conception idealism and that they put the main emphasis an man's ability to live in the ego, to experience the ego; for this is what it must be after the Mystery of Golgotha. But the oriental wisdom goes not only towards being able to experience the ego, but actually to overcoming it, to extinguishing it. This *selbstsucht*, this egotism, this searching for the self, this actually exists before the finding of the ego. As long as a person is looking for his “I”, so long does he develop this *selbstsucht*, this egotism and in order to free himself from this seeking for the self, this egotism, he must find the ego. Once you have found the ego, then you are no longer afflicted by the seeking for the self, therefore finding the ego is the only real possibility of overcoming this egotism. That person today who after the Mystery of Golgotha wants to flee away from the ego and says that which was said in ancient India, that all that is thrown back out of the ego into the seeking of the ego, that person is really fostering egotism. Hence, such books make an egotistical impression on us today, an impression which shows us that those very people want to draw away from the world, and do not really want to seek for their immortal part; they do not in reality want to seek for the spiritual, but want to withdraw from the reality of the spiritual in order in an egotistical way to try in their own dreamingness try to seek for knowledge. This is egotism of knowledge and this egotism of knowledge which does not notice itself is the worst form of egotism. Hence the book entitled *The High Goal of Knowledge* written by Omar al Rashid Bey, who really is a very good German, is reproducing all that ancient Indian stuff which is the worst type of egotism.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":356,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/167/1916-05-30/p007","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. Goddard","identified_edition":null,"book_title":"Things in Past and Present in the Spirit of Man","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA167/English/TS19xx/19160530p01.html","evidence":"edition_cover_credit","note":"The lecture's own page names no translator; the cover of the book it was taken from (https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA167/English/TS19xx/ThiPas_index.html) lists it and names the translator. 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This same book furthermore states: “The person who seeks for salvation in this world remains a victim of this world.” Now, on the other hand we say that since the Mystery of Golgotha, the person who does not seek for his salvation in the spiritual of the world but wants to draw himself from the world, actually falls victim to the world, he falls a victim to that part of the world which is dreaming in him. We say that after the Mystery of Golgotha, the person who unites himself with the eternal nature of this world and seeks the eternal within the time aspect, does not fall a victim to this world. One can take every sentence in this book and reverse it and then you will find the right thing. I have noted the following in the margins of this book: The person who flees from the ego falls a victim to the search for the ego, since the search creates the “I” for itself. The finding of the ego frees you from the searching for the ego, frees you from egotism. That person who is able to see through this world can win this world, whereas the book itself says: “Whoever is not able to lift himself out of this world lives and falls a victim to this world.” Today, after the Mystery of Golgotha we say that the person who today is able to see through this world is the person who can become a victor over this world. You can see from all this how such a book is a very Luciferic book. These people are trying to teach something in the present which really was valid thousands of years ago; hence we can call it Luciferic.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":357,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/167/1916-05-30/p008","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. 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Das rührt eben davon her, daß wir uns noch nicht vollständig mit dem Sinn des Mysteriums von Golgatha durchsetzt haben. Nehmen wir deshalb an, es trete jemand auf in unserer Zeit und wollte in unserer Zeit so sprechen, wie etwa, sagen wir, die Verfasser der Bhagavad Gita gesprochen haben oder wie der Buddha gesprochen hat in seiner Zeit, so würde dies so sein, daß der Betreffende etwas tun wollte in unserer Zeit, was gut war für jene Zeit, die Jahrhunderte dem Mysterium von Golgatha vorangegangen ist. Und man würde sagen können: Hätte der betreffende Mensch dasjenige, was er jetzt bringt, dazumal gebracht, als die Bhagavad Gita gebracht worden ist, dann wäre es dazumal eine richtige Tat gewesen im Sinne der Entwickelung. Träte er heute damit auf und spräche in demselben Sinne, in dem die Bhagavad Gita gesprochen hat, so ist es eine luziferische Tat, so ist dasjenige, was für jene Zeit taugt und was in jener Zeit hätte entwickelt werden sollen, herübergetragen in unsere Zeit. Ein solcher Mensch würde eben auslöschen aus seiner ganzen Vorstellungsart dasjenige, was in die Menschheit gebracht worden ist durch die Entwickelung seither.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/167/1916-05-30/p005"},{"locus":"GA 167/1916-05-30/p006","passage_number":6,"text":"Nun rede ich Ihnen hier nicht von einem Abstraktum, sondern ich rede so, weil ich Sie aufmerksam machen will auf eine gar sehr bestehende konkrete Erscheinung. Es ist im Jahre 1912 ein Buch erschienen, das heißt: «Das hohe Ziel der Erkenntnis. Aranada Upanishad» von Omar al Raschid Bey. Ich bemerke ausdrücklich, daß) Omar al Raschid Bey kein Türke ist, daß das nichts mit Mohammedanismus zu tun hat; er ist aus rein äußerlichen Gründen ein Türke geworden. Es kann uns hier nicht weiter interessieren, warum er Türke geworden ist. Er hat etwas zu vollziehen gehabt, was man in Deutschland — er ist ein guter Deutscher — nicht machen kann nämlich, wenn man nicht Türke wird, und da wurde er denn Türke. Omar al Raschid Bey wurde außerdem Brahmane und schrieb «Das hohe Ziel der Erkenntnis. Aranada Upanishad.» Herausgegeben nach seinem Tode ist dieses «Hohe Ziel der Erkenntnis» von seiner Frau, Helene Böhlau al Raschid Bey. Ich bemerke, daß nichts gesagt sein soll gegen die vorzüglichen «Ratsmädelgeschichten» und ähnliches, das Helene Böhlau früher geschrieben hat. Das ist ja nicht nötig, daß man in Bausch und Bogen eine ganze Persönlichkeit verurteilt. Aber die Vorrede, die die frühere Helene Böhlau, spätere Helene Böhlau al Raschid Bey, zu diesem Werke geschrieben hat, die wäre allerdings besser unterblieben. Nun sehen wir wirklich in diesem «Hohen Ziel der Erkenntnis» auftreten im Jahre 1912 dasjenige, was eben Jahrhunderte vor dem Mysterium von Golgatha hätte da sein dürfen, also etwas, was im eminentesten Sinne, ganz im technischen Sinne des Begriffes als etwas Luziferisches aufzufassen ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":256,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/167/1916-05-30/p006"}],"beads":[{"from":[5],"to":[5,6],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers).","uncovered":[6,7,8]}}