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These images arise through experiencing the Luciferic and Ahrimanic beings, who though of like nature to the supersensible beings just described, are contrasted with them through having transferred their field of activity and their abodes to the world which man perceives as the physical world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":80,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p005","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"l11","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 17/l11/p003","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/17/l11/p003"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 17/l11/p003"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":280,"en_words":290,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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It is from this standpoint that spiritual science must portray the Luciferic and Ahrimanic beings.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":85,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p006","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"l11","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 17/l11/p004","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/17/l11/p004"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 17/l11/p004"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":515,"en_words":562,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"status":"unknown","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. 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But when the human soul draws into the physical body the life which it should only develop in the elemental world, when it allows feeling within the physical body to be influenced by sympathies and antipathies which should only hold sway in the etheric body, then the Luciferic nature gains through that soul an influence which is opposed to the general order of the universe. This influence is always present when in the sympathies and antipathies of the physical world, something is working besides that love which is based on sympathy with the life of another being present in that world. Such a being may be loved because it comes before the one loving it endowed with certain qualities; in this case there is no admixture of a Luciferic element with the love. Love which has its basis in those qualities in the beloved being which are manifest in physical existence, keeps clear of Luciferic interference. But love, the source of which is not thus in the beloved being, but in the one loving it, is prone to the Luciferic influence. A being loved because it has qualities to which, as lovers, we incline by nature, is loved with that part of the soul which is accessible io the Luciferic element.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":321,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p007","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"l11","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 17/l11/p004","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/17/l11/p004"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 17/l11/p004"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":515,"en_words":562,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Love of the spiritual when it is sought for the sake of the self has the effect of emancipation; but love for the physical when it is sought on account of the self has not this effect, but, through the gratification gained by its means, only puts the self in fetters.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":156,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p008","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"l11","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 17/l11/p004","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/17/l11/p004"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 17/l11/p004"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":515,"en_words":562,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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They turn it away from the fact that thoughts of any kind are only of importance when they assert themselves as part of the universal order, whose discovery is not bound within physical existence. In the world into which the human life of the soul is woven, the Ahrimanic element must exist as a necessary counterbalance to the Luciferic. Without the Luciferic element, the soul would dream away its life in observation of physical existence, and feel no impulse to rise above it. Without the counter-effect of the Ahrimanic element, the soul would fall a victim to the Luciferic influence; it would underrate the importance of the physical world, in spite of the fact that some of its necessary conditions of existence are in that world. It would not wish to have anything to do with the physical world. The Ahrimanic element has the right degree of importance in the human soul when it leads to a way of living in the physical world which is suitable to that world; when we take it for what it is, and are able to dispense with everything in it which in its nature must be transitory.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":221,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p009","witness_quality":{"translator":{"status":"unknown","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. An unattributed translation cannot be weighed as a witness: you cannot tell which hand made the choices in it. Cite the German for anything load-bearing."},"entity_parity":{"status":"not_checkable","note":"No verified paragraph alignment covers this passage, so its names cannot be compared with the German."},"note":"quote_safe certifies the bytes of this text. This block is about the translation as a WITNESS: who made it, and whether it carries the same names as the original. 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All harmful effects from these cosmic beings proceed entirely from one of them becoming the unlimited master of the situation, whatever it may be, and from not being brought into the right harmony through the opposite force.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":130,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/17/l11/p010","witness_quality":{"translator":{"status":"unknown","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. An unattributed translation cannot be weighed as a witness: you cannot tell which hand made the choices in it. Cite the German for anything load-bearing."},"entity_parity":{"status":"not_checkable","note":"No verified paragraph alignment covers this passage, so its names cannot be compared with the German."},"note":"quote_safe certifies the bytes of this text. This block is about the translation as a WITNESS: who made it, and whether it carries the same names as the original. 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Sie kommen durch ihren ätherischen Leib zu einem Bewußtsein von ihrer eigenen Wesenheit. Der Mensch würde von einer übersinnlichen Wesenheit nichts wissen können, wenn er nicht das, was er an Kräften im physisch-sinnlichen Leib erwirbt, hinauftrüge in die übersinnlichen Welten. - Das übersinnliche Bewußtsein lernt diese Wesenheiten dadurch kennen, daß es zur Fähigkeit wird, mit Hilfe des ätherischen Menschenleibes zu beobachten. Es hebt dieses übersinnliche Bewußtsein die Menschenseele in die Welt hinauf, in welcher diese Wesenheiten ihren Wohnplatz und ihr Wirkensfeld haben. Erst wenn die Seele in dieser Welt sich selbst erlebt, treten in ihrem Bewußtsein Bilder (Vorstellungen) auf, welche eine Erkenntnis von diesen Wesen vermitteln. Denn diese Wesenheiten greifen nicht unmittelbar in die physische Welt und damit auch nicht in den physisch-sinnlichen Menschenleib ein. Sie sind für die Erlebnisse, welche durch diesen Leib gemacht werden können, nicht vorhanden. Sie sind geistige (übersinnliche) Wesen, welche die Sinneswelt gewissermaßen nicht betreten. - Wenn der Mensch die Grenze zwischen sinnlicher und übersinnlicher Welt nicht beachtet, dann kann es geschehen, daß er in sein physisch-sinnliches Bewußtsein übersinnliche Bilder hereindrängt, welche nicht der wahre Ausdruck für diese Wesenheiten sind. Diese Bilder entstehen durch ein Erleben der luziferischen und ahrimanischen Wesenheiten, welche zwar gleichartig sind mit den eben beschriebenen übersinnlichen Wesenheiten, die aber im Gegensatze zu ihnen ihren Wohnplatz und ihr Wirkensfeld in die Welt verlegt haben, welche der Mensch als Sinneswelt wahrnimmt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":280,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/17/l11/p003"},{"locus":"GA 17/l11/p004","passage_number":4,"text":"Wenn der Mensch durch das übersinnliche Bewußtsein die luziferischen und ahrimanischen Wesenheiten von der übersinnlichen Welt aus betrachtet, nachdem er durch das Erlebnis mit dem «Hüter der Schwelle» die Grenze zwischen dieser Welt und dem Sinnessein richtig beachten gelernt hat, dann lernt er diese Wesen in ihrer Wahrheit kennen. Er lernt sie unterscheiden von den anderen geistigen Wesenheiten, welche innerhalb des ihrer Natur angemessenen Wirkensfeldes verblieben sind. Von diesem Gesichtspunkte aus muß die Geisteswissenschaft die luziferischen und ahrimanischen Wesenheiten schildern. Von den luziferischen Wesen zeigt sich dann, daß ihr ihnen angemessenes Wirkensfeld nicht die physisch-sinnliche, sondern in einer gewissen Beziehung die elementarische Welt ist. Wenn in die menschliche Seele das eindringt, was sich innerhalb dieser Welt wie aus deren Fluten als Bilder erhebt, und diese Bilder in dem ätherischen Leibe des Menschen belebend wirken, ohne daß sie ein illusionäres Dasein in der Seele annehmen: so kann in diesen Bildern das luziferische Wesen vorhanden sein, ohne daß seine Taten gegen die Weltordnung verstoßen. Es wirkt dieses luziferische Wesen dann *befreiend* auf die Menschenseele; es erhebt dieselbe über das bloße Verwobensein mit der Sinneswelt. Wenn aber die Menschenseele das Leben, das sie nur in der elementarischen Welt entfalten sollte, in die physisch-sinnliche Welt hereinzieht, wenn sie das Fühlen innerhalb des physischen Leibes beeinflußt sein läßt von Antipathien und Sympathien, die nur in dem ätherischen Leibe walten sollten, dann gewinnt das luziferische Wesen durch diese Seele einen Einfluß, der sich gegen die allgemeine Weltenordnung auflehnt. Es ist dieser Einfluß überall da vorhanden, wo in den Sympathien und Antipathien der Sinneswelt etwas anderes wirkt als jene Liebe, welche auf dem Mitfühlen des Lebens eines anderen in der Sinneswelt vorhandenen Wesens beruht. Ein solches Wesen kann geliebt werden, weil es dem Liebenden mit diesen oder jenen Eigenschaften entgegentritt, dann wird in die Liebe sich nichts von luziferischem Elemente einmischen können. Liebe, die ihren Grund in den im Sinnensein zutage tretenden Eigenschaften des geliebten Wesens hat, hält sich von luziferischem Einschlage fern. Liebe, die ihren Grund nicht in dieser Art in dem geliebten Wesen hat, sondern in dem, welches liebt, neigt zu dem luziferischen Einfluß hin. Ein Wesen, das man liebt, weil es Eigenschaften hat, zu denen man als Liebender seiner Natur nach neigt, liebt man mit dem Teil der Seele, welcher dem luziferischen Elemente zugänglich. ist. - Man sollte daher niemals sagen, das luziferische Element sei unter allen Umständen etwas Böses. Denn die Vorgänge und Wesenheiten der übersinnlichen Welten muß die Menschenseele im Sinne des luziferischen Elementes lieben. Gegen die Weltordnung wird erst verstoßen, wenn man die Art von Liebe, mit der man sich zu dem Übersinnlichen hingezogen fühlen sollte, auf das Sinnliche richtet. Die Liebe zum Übersinnlichen ruft mit Recht in dem Liebenden ein erhöhtes Selbstgefühl hervor; die Liebe, die in der Sinneswelt um eines solchen erhöhten Selbstgefühles willen gesucht wird, entspricht einer luziferischen Verlockung. 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