{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 171/1916-09-17/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The fourth post-Atlantean age extends both backwards and forwards from its central point in 333 A.D. It ended about 1413 A.D. and it began about 747 B.C. These are of course, approximate dates. I have just told you that the disappointment of Lucifer and Ahriman in the forms the Greek and Roman civilizations had assumed, has led them to make still stronger efforts in our fifth post-Atlantean age. Their efforts are already at work in the human forces that have been active from the fifteenth century. It does not matter whether something occurs a few decades earlier or later. In outer physical reality, which takes on the form of the “great illusion,” things are sometimes misplaced.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"2. The Influence of Luciferic and Ahrimanic Beings on Historical Development. 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Natürlich kommt es nicht darauf an, ob etwas ein paar Jahrzehnte früher oder später auftritt; in der äußeren physischen Wirklichkeit, wo man es ja mit der großen Täuschung zu tun hat, verschieben sich die Dinge zuweilen etwas. Daß das Römertum, so wie es erhalten worden ist, für die Entwickelung der Menschheit erhalten werden konnte, wird also verdankt den Ereignissen der Völkerwanderung. Denn hätte sich das Römertum so entwickelt, daß ein großes, umfassendes, mechanisiertes Weltenreich entstanden wäre, so wäre dieses Weltenreich nur möglich zu bewohnen gewesen von jenen Ich-losen Menschen, die auf der Erde hätten zurückbleiben sollen, nachdem die luziferischen Geister die Seelen auf dem Wege des Griechentums hinausgebracht hätten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":220,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/171/1916-09-17/p012"},{"locus":"GA 171/1916-09-17/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Sie sehen also, wie Ahriman und Luzifer zusammenarbeiten. Die Menschenseelen will Luzifer heraus haben und einen eigenen Planeten mit ihnen begründen; Ahriman mußte nun ihn unterstützen dadurch, daß, während Luzifer gewissermaßen den Saft aus der Zitrone heraussaugt, Ahriman ihn herausdrückt, indem er das, was zurückbleibt, verhärtet. Und das versuchte er im Römischen Reiche zu tun. Sie sehen da einen mächtigen, umfassenden kosmischen Prozeß, der sich entwickelt hat, der aber beabsichtigt war von den ahrimanischen und luziferischen Mächten. Wie gesagt, diese waren enttäuscht. Sie haben ihre Anstrengungen weiter fortgesetzt, und der fünfte nachatlantische Zeitraum wird schon noch merken und verstehen lernen, wie stark diese Anstürme sind, die ja erst ihren Anfang genommen haben, und die, weil immer im Anfang eines Zeitraumes die Anstürme, die von den zurückbleibenden Wesen ausgehen, am geringsten sind und dann immer mächtiger werden, und wie daher auch die Notwendigkeit, diese Anstürme zu verstehen, immer größer und größer wird. 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