{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 173c/1917-01-20/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us look first at those societies which practise ceremonial magic from this point of view. As we have said, it can be good, but in these societies it is not good. Certain kinds of ceremonial magic have definite effects on the human physical body. Everything physical is, after all, a manifestation of the spirit. Certain spiritual aspects which come into being under the influence of ceremonial magic can have an effect on the human physical body, specifically on the system of ganglia, as I described it the other day, and also on the spinal system. The cerebral system is the most difficult of all to influence by means of ceremonial magic. All this has to be done via the detour of the spiritual element, but it can be done and it can become effective.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture XXI","site_heading":"Ceremonial Magic, Dead Souls, and Ahrimanic Immortality","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Nun, zeremonielle Magie kann auch gute Magie sein, aber wir sprechen jetzt von denjenigen Gesellschaften, welche zeremonielle Magie treiben, um nicht das allgemeine Menschenheil zu fördern, sondern das Heil von Menschengruppen oder das Heil von speziellen Bestrebungen, nicht allgemein-menschlichen Bestrebungen. Lenken wir also unseren Blick zunächst auf solche Gesellschaften, die von diesem Gesichtspunkte aus zeremonielle Magie treiben, Magie, welche durch Zeremonien geübt wird. Wie gesagt, die kann auch gut sein, aber bei diesen Gesellschaften ist es eben nicht gut. Nun haben gewisse Arten der zeremoniellen Magie die Eigentümlichkeit, daß sie wirklich eine gewisse Bedeutung, eine gewisse Wirkung haben auf den physischen Menschenapparat. Alles Physische ist ja schließlich eine Offenbarung des Geistigen. Dasjenige Geistige, das unter dem Einflusse gewisser zeremonieller magischer Verrichtungen entsteht, kann hereinwirken in den physischen Menschenapparat, in das Gangliensystem, wie ich es Ihnen neulich charakterisiert habe, in das Rückenmarkssystem. Am schwierigsten aber ist es, durch die Verrichtungen der zeremoniellen Magie auf das Zerebralsystem zu wirken. Auf dem Umwege durch das Geistige muß das alles geschehen, aber es kann geschehen, es kann so wirksam werden,","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/173c/1917-01-20/p019"}],"english":["GA 173c/1917-01-20/p024","GA 173c/1917-01-20/p025"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":205,"en_words":212,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.0,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5322,"original_word_count":5331,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1988","book_title":"The Karma of Untruthfulness II","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA173c/English/RSP1988/19170120p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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