{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 173c/1917-01-20/p028","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Imagine a human being—and there are countless such in the West—who is entirely materialistic, not only in his view of the world but also in all his feelings and sensations. And then imagine this materialistic disposition increasing to a high degree. Such a person must of necessity develop an urge to exercise an influence on the material world, not only while he lives in his physical body but also after he has died. He is bent on the following: When I die I want to have some abode through which I can affect the people I have left behind on the earth, or who are trained in such a way in relation to me. There are indeed certain people today whose materialistic urge is so great that they strive for means by which they can cultivate connections with the physical world even beyond death. And such means, through which a person secures for himself the possibility of affecting the material world from beyond death, are abodes of certain kinds of ceremonial magical practice.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture XXI","site_heading":"Ceremonial Magic, Dead Souls, and Ahrimanic Immortality","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Durch solche Verrichtungen ist die Möglichkeit gegeben, daß die geistige Welt, ohne daß der Mensch ihr entgegengeht auf dem Wege, wie ich es angedeutet habe, einen Einfluß gewinnt auf die Menschen, die teilnehmen an solchen Verrichtungen zeremonieller Art. Das heißt, es wird eine Möglichkeit geschaffen, daß Tote, neben andern Geistern, auf diejenigen, die eingesponnen sind in einem solchen Ring, der durch die zeremonielle Magie geschaffen wird, einwirken. Dadurch aber kann der Materialismus unserer Zeit gewissermaßen übermaterialisiert werden. Denken Sie sich, ein Mensch sei ganz und gar, nicht bloß in bezug auf seine Weltanschauung, sondern in bezug auf sein ganzes Empfinden, auf sein Fühlen materialistisch gesinnt, und das sind im Westen ungeheuer viele Leute. Nun steigert sich diese materialistische Gesinnung noch in hohem Maße. Dann bekommt er den Drang, nicht nur einen Einfluß zu haben auf die materielle Welt, solange er im physischen Leibe lebt, sondern über den Tod hinaus. Er strebt an: Wenn ich sterbe, so will ich irgendeine Stätte haben, durch die ich auf die lebenden Menschen, die ich zurückgelassen habe auf.der Erde, oder die abgerichtet werden für mich, wirke. Es gibt in unserer Zeit eben schon Menschen, deren materialistischer Drang so stark ist, daß sie nach Einrichtungen streben, durch die sie über den Tod hinaus in der materiellen Welt Einrichtungen pflegen können. 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