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Just as the territorial forces of the earth vibrate very strongly with the waters of the womb that contains a growing physical human being, so in a most marked way do the forces of the starry constellations vibrate in the dead person who is still in his etheric body at the moment—which is, of course, karmically determined—when he has just left the physical world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture XXII","site_heading":"The Dead, Materialism, and Spiritual Concepts","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Der Tote geht, so könnte ich mich ausdrücken, in einer gewissen Weise in die geistige Welt hinaus; aber er geht aus der physischen Welt in die geistige Welt hinaus, er verläßt die physische Welt und ist Ja insbesondere in den ersten Tagen noch mit der physischen Welt zusammenhängend. Und da ist es sehr bedeutungsvoll, daß der Tote aus der physischen Welt hinausgeht gar sehr angepaßt an die Konstellation, die sich für sein Leben aus der Stellung der Planeten ergibt. Solange namentlich der Tote noch mit seinem Ätherleib zusammenhängt, klingen und schwingen wunderbar nach die Planetenkräfte, die Konstellation der Planetenkräfte durch diesen Ätherleib. So wie im Embryowasser beim Entstehen des physischen Menschen außerordentlich stark mitschwingen die Erdenterritorialkräfte, so schwingen bei dem Toten, der noch in:seinem Ätherleib ist, in einer ganz auffälligen Weise die Kräfte mit, die mit den Sternkonstellationen zusammenhängen in dem Augenblicke, wo — das Ganze ist ja natürlich karmisch bedingt - der Tote die physische Welt verlassen hat. Und man könnte, wenn man nur mit der nötigen Ehrfurcht und Würde vorgeht, interessante Entdeckungen machen, wenn man eben solche Sorgfalt anwenden würde, wie man leider oftmals sogar aus egoistischen Gründen anwendet, um eine Untersuchung zu machen für die Sternkonstellation der Geburt. Viel selbstlosere, viel schönere Resultate würde man bekommen, wenn man gewissermaßen das Horoskop stellte, namentlich das planetarische Horoskop, die Stellung der Planeten für den Moment des Todes. Das ist außerordentlich aufschlußreich für das ganze Wesen des seelischen Menschen, und außerordentlich aufschlußreich für den Zusammenhang des Karma mit dem Eintreten des Todes gerade in einem gewissen Momente.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":282,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/173c/1917-01-21/p024"}],"english":["GA 173c/1917-01-21/p025","GA 173c/1917-01-21/p026"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":282,"en_words":253,"ratio":0.9,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6085,"original_word_count":6271,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1988","book_title":"The Karma of Untruthfulness II","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA173c/English/RSP1988/19170121p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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