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That is not even correct, but it is correct that he has too strong an awareness when he has gone through the gate of death, that he is completely surrounded by awareness, that he is quite dazed by the spiritual sunlight of consciousness and must first begin to orient himself, as I have explained in more detail in the cycle just mentioned. Here on earth we have to acquire wisdom in a makeshift way; but over there we are surrounded by wisdom on all sides, so we have to dim it so that we can behold it. The parts that we have subdued to human weakness are the ones we can see. So first we have to familiarize ourselves with the subjugation of our consciousness until we can find our way around. This is something that becomes particularly apparent when one really looks at the phenomena. You see, one then gradually tries to shape the words so that they properly express these phenomena. Not long ago a dear member of our society in Zurich died. Karma had it that although I had wanted to see the member in the physical life, I came too late and did not see him. But then, after a few days, we had the cremation in Zurich. I was asked to speak at this cremation, and I tried to put into words what presented itself to me inwardly as the essence of this dear member of our society. I tried to capture this essence in a few words. Then the cremation was carried out. And it was now noticeable that the first orienting emergence from the engulfing consciousness occurred at the moment when the body passed into the flames, when seemingly the flame, in reality the heat, seized this body. At that moment, the scene we had had before was before the soul of the deceased. Before, during the funeral oration, she had not taken part in it, but afterwards, when the cremation began, she looked back. And just as in physical life one has space in front of oneself, so the dead person sees things in time. What has passed is beside the dead person. He sees the scenes standing in front of him. Time really becomes space. The past is not past, it remains there, it is looked at. Then the dead descended again into a general stupor, and it then takes a long time for orientation to take place. But such moments prepare themselves, one might say, bright moments, which are then further processed. 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If we do nothing further, we come to no other conclusion. But here, with regard to the physical facts, the logic of the facts may be wrong. At the autopsy, we may discover that the man had a stroke and that he consequently fell into the water, so that cause and effect are reversed. We thought the man was dead because he fell into the water; in reality he fell into the water because he was dead. In relation to the external facts, the logic was wrong. 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Das ist nicht einmal richtig, sondern richtig ist, daß er ein zu starkes Bewußtsein hat, wenn er durch die Pforte des Todes gegangen ist, daß er von Bewußtsein ganz umflutet ist, daß er sich nicht auskennt, daß er ganz betäubt ist von dem geistigen Sonnenlicht des Bewußtseins und erst anfangen muß sich zu orientieren, wie ich es ja des näheren ausgeführt habe in dem eben erwähnten Zyklus. Hier auf der Erde müssen wir uns Weisheit notdürftig erwerben; drüben aber sind wir von Weisheit allseitig umflossen, da müssen wir sie dämpfen, daß wir sie anschauen können. Die Teile, die wir herabgedämpft haben bis zur menschlichen Schwäche, die sind es, die wir anschauen können. So müssen wir uns erst hineinfinden in das Herabdämpfen unseres Bewußtseins, bis wir uns zurechtfinden können. Dies ist etwas, was einem ganz besonders bemerkenswert vor Augen tritt, wenn man die Erscheinungen wirklich betrachtet. Sehen Sie, man versucht dann allmählich die Worte so zu prägen, daß sie ordentlich ausdrücken diese Erscheinungen. Vor nicht langer Zeit ist ein liebes Mitglied unserer Gesellschaft in Zürich gestorben. Das Karma hat es dahin gebracht, daß, obwohl ich das Mitglied noch habe sehen wollen im physischen Leben, ich zu spät gekommen bin und es nicht mehr sah. Dann aber hatten wir in Zürich nach einigen Tagen die Kremation. Ich war veranlaßt, bei dieser Kremation zu sprechen, und ich versuchte in Worte zu fassen dasjenige, was sich mir innerlich darstellte als das Wesen dieses unseres lieben Mitglieds. Ich versuchte mit einigen Worten festzuhalten dieses Wesen. Dann wurde die Kremation vollzogen. Und zu bemerken war nun, daß das erste orientierende Auftauchen aus dem überflutenden Bewußtsein heraus in dem Moment eintrat, als der Körper überging in die Verbrennung, als scheinbar die Flamme, in Wirklichkeit die Wärme diesen Körper ergriff. In diesem Moment stand vor der Seele der Hingestorbenen die Szene, die wir vorher gehabt hatten. Vorher hatte sie, während der Bestattungsrede, nicht daran teilgenommen, aber hinterher, als die Verbrennung anfing, da blickte sie zurück. Und wie man im physischen Leben den Raum vor sich hat, so sieht der Tote die Dinge in der Zeit. Was vergangen ist, ist neben dem Toten. Er sieht die Szenen vor sich stehen. Die Zeit wird wirklich zum Raume. Das Vergangene ist nicht vergangen, es bleibt da, es wird angeschaut. Dann ging die Tote wieder hinab in ein allgemeines Betäubtsein, und es dauert dann längere Zeit, bis das Orientieren stattfindet. Aber es bereiten sich solche Momente vor, man möchte sagen, lichte Augenblicke, die dann weiter verarbeitet werden. Dann kommt wieder ein Untertauchen in die allgemeine Überflutung des Bewußtseins, bis später ein vollständiges Orientieren eintritt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":485,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/174b/1915-02-14/p027"},{"locus":"GA 174b/1915-02-14/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Und so muß man sagen, daß es ein wichtiger Begriff ist, der die Weisheit, die Bewußtheit in anderer Weise denkt nach dem Tode als vor dem Tode. Es ist nicht so, daß uns ein Grad von Bewußtheit erst erwachsen müsse nach dem Tode, sondern es muß das unermeßliche Bewußtsein bis zu einem gewissen Grade herabgedämpft werden. Das müssen wir beachten. Und dann müssen wir ernst machen, richtig ernst machen mit der Erkenntnis, daß für die Wahrheit die Dinge oftmals gerade umgekehrt liegen gegenüber dem, was sich äußerlich darstellt. Ich habe das ja schon öfter veranschaulicht an einem Beispiel. Ein Mensch geht am Rande eines Baches, er fällt hinein in den Bach und ertrinkt. Wir gehen ihm nach und finden ihn ertrunken, und an der Stelle, wo er in den Bach hineingefallen ist, finden wir einen Stein. Wir können dann mit vollem Recht den Schluß ziehen, der Mensch sei über den Stein in den Bach hineingefallen und dadurch ertrunken. Wenn wir nichts weiter tun, kommen wir zu keiner anderen Anschauung. Hier kann aber mit Bezug auf die physischen Tatsachen die Tatsachenlogik falsch sein. Bei der Sektion kommen wir vielleicht darauf, daß den Menschen der Schlag getroffen hat, und daß er infolgedessen ins Wasser gefallen ist, daß also Ursache und Wirkung sich umkehren. Wir meinten, der Mensch ist tot, weil er ins Wasser fiel; in Wirklichkeit ist er ins Wasser gefallen, weil er tot war. Da war in bezug auf die äußeren Tatsachen die Logik falsch. So können wir oft gar nicht zurechtkommen mit der Logik für die äußere Maja.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":258,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/174b/1915-02-14/p028"}],"beads":[{"from":[26],"to":[27],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[27],"to":[28],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}