{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 174b/1915-11-24/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"After the spiritual researcher has developed this impression, which is natural to him, his research leads him back to the riddle of the human being hit by a bullet in his youth. And he must now ask: Is there something for the world beyond, in which the disembodied human beings and spiritual beings live, that corresponds to idealism here on earth? Is there something similar for the beings in the hereafter as the ideals here on earth? And lo and behold, the following emerges. Take a person who was shot at a young age: his etheric body separates from the physical body, the physical body has gone in a violent way. Of course, the violence must come from outside. What I have said can never apply when it is a matter of one's own decision. The process must come from outside. The etheric body, as I have already emphasized, has forces within it that could have continued to supply life for decades, perhaps even for decades, here on earth. These forces do not disappear, they remain. The person who now discards his etheric body in this way hands over the forces of his etheric body to the general world. But he has entered the spiritual world in the manner indicated, or rather, his body has been taken from him. So he now ascends into the spiritual world as a disembodied soul. Something of him remains in the physical world that he could have used up himself but did not use up. Consider what is at hand here! The human being in question ascends into the spiritual world without having used up anything that he could have used up.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Sixth Lecture","site_heading":"Cosmic Forces, Violent Death, and Spiritual Idealism","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Nehmen wir einen Menschen, der im jugendlichen Alter von einer Kugel getroffen worden ist: sein Ätherleib trennt sich von dem physischen Leibe, der physische Leib ist auf gewaltsame Weise weggegangen. Selbstverständlich muß die Gewalt von außen kommen. Es kann niemals das, was ich gesagt habe, gelten, wenn der eigene Entschluß vorliegt. Der Vorgang muß von außen kommen. Der Ätherleib hat also, wie ich schon betonte, Kräfte in sich, die noch weiter, vielleicht jahrzehntelang das Leben hätten versorgen können hier auf der Erde. Diese Kräfte vergehen nicht, sie bleiben. Derjenige, der so seinen Ätherleib nun ablegt, übergibt die Kräfte seines Ätherleibes der allgemeinen Welt. Er ist aber auf die angedeutete Weise in die geistige Welt hineingekommen, beziehungsweise es ist ihm sein Leib genommen worden. So geht er nun in die geistige Welt als ein Entkörperter hinauf. Es bleibt von ihm etwas in der physischen Welt zurück, was er selber noch hätte verbrauchen können, aber nicht verbraucht hat. Bedenken Sie, was da vorliegt! 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