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On the other hand, there is much discussion about the justification for something that must, as it were, first appear in the world. We cannot often enough bear in mind what, out of the spirit of our time, anthroposophy should be and wants to be, and bring it into connection with what is in us that can push towards anthroposophy, that wants to bring us to anthroposophy.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Ninth Lecture","site_heading":"Soul's Independence and Spiritual Science's Defense Against Slander","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Keiner kommt zu uns, der ein Verhältnis zur geistigen Welt gewinnen kann auf denjenigen Wegen, die seit Jahrhunderten draußen voll anerkannt sind, und die ihre Gangbarkeit dem Umstande verdanken, daß die Menschen nachzudenken vergaßen über die Berechtigung dessen, was sich den allgemeinen Lebensnotwendigkeiten eingefügt hat. Dagegen wird viel diskutiert über die Berechtigung, wenn etwas gewissermaßen zuerst auftreten muß in der Welt. 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