{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 174b/1918-02-24/p033","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"There are already works today - I may have mentioned them here already - which treat the question of Christ Jesus from the standpoint of the correct present-day natural science. Very interesting books, because they proceed uncompromisingly. Above all, a Danish book. There are also others who really express what the present-day psychologist, the present-day psychiatrist, who thinks scientifically, must think about Christ Jesus. What does Christ Jesus become? He becomes an epileptic, a pathological person, a person with a morbid disposition. And the Gospels are interpreted in such a way that one sees in every chapter: they are case histories. Of course, all this is nonsense; but to say that it is nonsense, today only the one has the right to do so who sees through the matter spiritually. The one who accepts today's scientific psychology and psychiatry, from his point of view, this Christ teaching is the right one, because it draws the right conclusion there. And a person who speaks as a modern psychiatrist is still a better person, a truer, a more honest person than the one who accepts today's psychiatry and yet thinks differently about Christ, in the sense of those pastors or priests who also accept science in its entirety and yet make compromises.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Thirteenth Lecture","site_heading":"Spiritual Warfare, Materialism, and Living Education","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Das ist natürlich alles Blödsinn; aber daß es Blödsinn ist, das zu sagen, dazu hat heute nur derjenige das Recht, der die Sache geistig durchschaut. Derjenige, der die naturwissenschaftliche Psychologie und Psychiatrie heute gelten läßt, von dessen Standpunkt aus ist diese Christus-Lehre die richtige, weil sie da die richtige Konsequenz zieht. 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