{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p007","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In my book *Christianity As Mystical Fact*, which appeared some years ago, I ventured to indicate a certain way in which one could approach the Mystery of Christ. This book (which in its new edition was one of the last books to be confiscated by the old régime in Russia) was a first attempt to interpret Christianity from a spiritual standpoint, a standpoint which in the course of centuries has been more or less lost to Christianity during its development in the West. Now I should like to emphasize one thing in particular, for this will determine whether the arguments advanced in my book are valid or not. In this book I have adopted a definite attitude towards the Gospels. I do not wish to enter into further details at the moment, for my point of view is explicitly stated in the book. But if I am justified in my point of view we shall have to assume that the origin of the Gospels is not nearly so late as contemporary Christian theology often assumes, but that an early date must probably be assigned to them. You know that from the standpoint of Spiritual Science the origins of the Gospel teaching are to be found in the ancient Mystery teachings. We must see the Mystery of Golgotha as a fulfilment of these ancient teachings. Now such a spiritual conception will run counter to the exegeses of modern historians and theologians who will regard it no doubt as historically unsound. Now it is fairly evident that the Gospels did not exercise any significant influence during the first century, or at least during the first two-thirds of this century. There are indeed Christian theologians today who doubt whether any evidence can be adduced that in the first century of the Christian era people of consequence thought of, or even believed in, the person of Jesus Christ.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Reality-Based Thinking and the Spirit's Suppression","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1917-03-27","location":null,"word_count":314,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/175/1917-03-27/p007","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"A. H. 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Nun möchte ich vorerst eines besonders hervorheben, was ja eigentlich so liegt, daß alle Ausführungen des Buches «Das Christentum als mystische Tatsache» damit stehen und fallen. Eine bestimmte Anschauung über die Evangelien ist darin vertreten. Auf diese Anschauung soll weiter nicht eingegangen werden. Sie können sie ja in dem Buche nachlesen. Aber wenn diese Anschauung berechtigt ist, so ist gleichzeitig notwendig vorauszusetzen, daß die Evangelien keineswegs so spät entstanden sind, als man heute oftmals auch in der christlichen Theologie annimmt, sondern daß die Evangelien in unbestimmter Weise früh in ihrer Entstehung angesetzt werden müssen. Sie wissen ja, daß nach dieser Anschauung die Elemente der evangelischen Lehre in den alten Mysterienbüchern zu suchen sind, und daß es sich nur darum handelt, das Mysterium von Golgatha als eine Erfüllung desjenigen, was in den alten Mysterienbüchern enthalten ist, zu erkennen. Nun wird man gerade mit einer solchen geistigen Auffassung des Christentums in der gegenwärtigen Zeit auch gegenüber manchen theologisch-historischen Ausführungen auf Widerspruch stoßen. Es wird eine solche Ausführung auch gerade von den modernsten Theologen vielleicht als historisch unbegründet angesehen werden; es soll ja gewissermaßen klar sein, daß die Evangelien im ersten Jahrhundert, oder wenigstens in den ersten zwei Dritteln des ersten Jahrhunderts, noch keine besondere Rolle gespielt haben. Und sogar theologische Vertreter des Christentums gibt es schon, welche anzweifeln, daß irgendein Beweis dafür erbracht werden könne, daß im ersten Jahrhundert der christlichen Zeitrechnung Leute, auf die es ankommt, an die Person des Christus Jesus gedacht oder, wie man es nennen will, geglaubt haben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":349,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/175/1917-03-27/p006"}],"english":["GA 175/1917-03-27/p007"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":349,"en_words":314,"ratio":0.9,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6812,"original_word_count":7035,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"A. H. 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