{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"If one were to claim for these views the same validity and reality as the geologist claims for his theories about primeval ages, I doubt if he would be considered to be in his right mind. One need only come along with all kinds of symbols and allegories and people are satisfied. But Saint-Martin was not speaking symbolically; he was speaking of realities which he believed had really existed. Of course in describing certain things which existed when the Earth in its original state was more spiritual than in later times, he had to appeal to “Imaginations”. But “Imaginations” represent realities; they should not be interpreted symbolically. Their imaginative content must be accepted at its face value. I mention this in passing. I cannot at the moment enter into details. I only wish to show the radical difference between the language of the eighteenth century in which a book such as *Des Erreurs et de la Vérité* was written and the language which alone passes current today. The style and idiom of Saint-Martin have completely died out.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Reality-Based Thinking and the Spirit's Suppression","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1917-03-27","location":null,"word_count":177,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/175/1917-03-27/p014","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"A. H. 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Es war natürlich für Saint-Martin notwendig, daß er für gewisse Dinge, die damals vorhanden waren, als die Erde in ihrem Ursprung noch geistiger war als später, Imaginationen wählte. Allein Imaginationen sind Darstellungen von Wirklichkeiten; man darf sie nicht symbolisch auslegen, sondern man muß sie in ihrem imaginativen Inhalte nehmen, wie sie sind. — Ich wollte dies anführen, nicht um auf diese Sache jetzt einzugehen, sondern nur um Ihnen zu zeigen, wie grundverschieden noch im achtzehnten Jahrhundert die Sprache war, in der solch ein Buch wie «Des erreurs et de la vérité» geschrieben ist, von der Sprache, die man heute als die allein wirkliche gelten lassen will. 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