{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now you know that the doctrine which is outmoded today but which in the early centuries sought to preserve the threefold division of man and the cosmos was Gnosticism.[^4] In later centuries Gnosticism was proscribed and finally suppressed so that it disappeared completely. I do not say that it ought to have survived; I simply wish to register the historical fact that Gnosticism held promise of a spiritual conception of a Mystery of Golgotha and was ultimately suppressed. Events now took a strange turn. Roman traditionalism was increasingly influenced by Christianity and the further this influence penetrated the less Rome understood its relationship to the “spiritual man”, and certain gnostic Christians gave increasing offence by continuing to speak of body, soul and spirit. In circles where Catholic Christianity had become the official religion there were repeated attempts to suppress the idea of the spirit. They felt that all reference co the spirit should be ignored, otherwise the old ideas of the tripartite division of man might revive again. So matters pursued their course. When we make a careful study of the early Christian centuries we find that many problems that are usually accounted for in other ways are seen in their true light when we realize that, as Christianity fell increasingly under the influence of Rome, the avowed object of Rome was progressively to eliminate the idea of the spirit. When we recognize that Western Christianity had of necessity to dethrone the spirit, innumerable questions of conscience and of epistomology are resolved. 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Aber in demselben Maße, in dem es hineinfließt in das römische Wesen, wird es mit Bezug auf sein Verhältnis zum pneumatischen Menschen von diesem römischen Wesen nicht verstanden. Und es erregte immer mehr und mehr Anstoß, daß gewisse gnostische Vertreter des Christentums noch immer sprachen von Leib, Seele und Geist. Man versuchte in den Kreisen, in denen das Christentum auf römische Art offiziell geworden ist, immer mehr und mehr zu kaschieren, zu unterdrücken den Geist, den Begriff des Geistes. Man hatte das Gefühl, man solle den Menschen nicht auf den Geist hinweisen, denn dadurch könnten alle die Anschauungen - so glaubte man — wieder aufleben von der Gliederung des Menschen in Leib, Seele und Geist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":225,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/175/1917-03-27/p017"},{"locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Und so ging denn die Entwickelung weiter. Und wenn man die ersten Jahrhunderte der christlichen Entwickelung wirklich genau betrachtet, dann findet man, daß vieles, was gewöhnlich anders erklärt wird, dadurch sich im rechten Lichte darstellt, daß man weiß: Es ist dem römisch werdenden Christentum immer mehr und mehr darum zu tun, den Begriff des Geistes völlig verschwinden zu lassen. Unendlich viele Gewissensfragen, Erkenntnisfragen, gewinnen erst dadurch das rechte Licht, wenn man auf dieses Bedürfnis des europäisch gewordenen Christentums eingeht, den Geist abzusetzen. Und diese Entwickelung führt ja zuletzt dahin, daß in dem achten ökumenischen Konzil in Konstantinopel 869 eine Formel, ein Dogma aufgestellt wird, das vielleicht in seinem Wortlaut noch nicht so klar spricht, das aber dann dazu geführt hat, so ausgelegt zu werden, daß es unchristlich sei, von Leib, Seele und Geist zu sprechen; daß es einzig und allein christlich sei, nur zu sagen, der Mensch bestehe aus Leib und Seele. 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