{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p019","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"You know that Western Christendom was deeply divided by the schism between the Eastern Church and the Church of Rome on doctrinal questions which still divide them today. The dogmatic ground of dissension—for which, of course, there are other, deep-seated motives—stemmed from the famous question of filioque.[^6] In a later Council (the Orthodox Church recognized only the first seven Councils) the Latin Church recognized the double Procession, namely, that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father and the Son. This was declared to be heretical by the Eastern Church which maintained that the Holy Ghost proceeds only from the Father. The great confusion over this dogma could only arise because the conception of the spirit had become blurred. All understanding of the spirit had been gradually lost. This is undoubtedly connected with the fact that, from the beginning of the Fifth post-Atlantean epoch onwards, man had to be denied for a time all perception of the spirit. In face of this truth, the events described above are only, so to speak, the tip of the iceberg. We must probe beneath the surface if we are to arrive at a valid point of view which is rooted in reality.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Reality-Based Thinking and the Spirit's Suppression","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Die römisch-katholische Kirche erkennt nach dem späteren Konzil - die russische Kirche erkennt ja nur die ersten sieben Konzilien an — die Formel an, daß der Heilige Geist ausgehe, wie man sagt: «sowohl vom Vater wie vom Sohn»; nicht nur vom Vater, sondern auch vom Sohn. Das wurde ja von Konstantinopel aus als ketzerisch erklärt. Die russische Kirche — wie gesagt, dahinter liegen viel tiefere Impulse, aber das soll heute nur konstatiert werden — erkennt an, daß der Heilige Geist vom Vater ausgeht. — Die große Verwirrung in bezug auf dieses Dogma hat natürlich nur dadurch entstehen können, daß man überhaupt über den Begriff des Geistes in Verwirrung kam, daß man den Begriff des Geistes nach und nach überhaupt ganz verlor. Allerdings hängt das ja zusammen damit, daß gegen die fünfte nachatlantische Kulturperiode herauf der Mensch eine Zeitlang von der Anschauung des Geistes ausgeschlossen sein sollte. Gegenüber dieser Wahrheit ist dasjenige, was da geschah, man möchte sagen, das an der Oberfläche sich abspielende Spiegelbild. Aber man muß doch dasjenige, was in diesem Spiegelbild liegt, durchschauen, wenn man zu einer gültigen wirklichkeitsgesättigten Anschauung kommen will.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":255,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/175/1917-03-27/p020"}],"english":["GA 175/1917-03-27/p019"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":255,"en_words":198,"ratio":0.78,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6812,"original_word_count":7035,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"A. H. 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