{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-03-27/p022","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Considerable progress has been made towards the abolition of the soul in many spheres. The nineteenth century, for example, saw the rise of dialectical materialism which is the basic tenet of (German) social democracy today. If we look upon Engels and Marx as the major “prophets” of dialectical materialism—the Biblical term is perhaps out of place in this context, but we may perhaps risk it here—they are also the direct descendants, historically speaking, of the Church Fathers of the eighth Ecumenical Council. We see here an unbroken line of development. The steps taken by the Church Fathers towards the abolition of the spirit were carried a stage further by Marx and Engels in their comprehensive attempt to abolish the soul. According to the materialistic theory of history spiritual impulses are of no account, the driving forces of history are material forces or economic factors—the struggle for material well-being. What appertains to the soul is simply a superstructure on the solid foundation of material processes. It is important to recognize the genuine catholicity of Marx and Engels and to note in these aspirations of the nineteenth century the true consequence of the abolition of the spirit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Reality-Based Thinking and the Spirit's Suppression","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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So ist im neunzehnten Jahrhundert das heraufgezogen, was man den historischen Materialismus nennt, der die grundlegende geschichtliche Anschauung für die heutige Sozialdemokratie geworden ist. Wenn man in Engels und Marx die hauptsächlichsten — ja, wie soll man sagen, ein altes Wort darf man vielleicht nicht anwenden, aber vielleicht unter uns doch -, diese hauptsächlichsten «Propheten» des historischen Materialismus ins Auge faßt, so sind sie die direkten, die unmittelbaren Nachkommen - historisch gefaßt — der Väter vom achten ökumenischen Konzil. Da haben Sie die kontinuierliche Fortentwickelung. Was die Väter dazumal getan haben in der Abschaffung des Geistes, das setzten die Marx und Engels fort in ihrem schon sehr weitgehenden Versuche der Abschaffung der Seele. Nicht wahr, alle seelischen Impulse gelten ja nach dieser Anschauung nicht mehr, sondern dasjenige, was die Geschichte vorwärtstreibt, sind nur die materiellen Impulse, ist der Kampf um materielle Güter. Und das Seelische ist nur, wie man es ausgedrückt hat, der Oberbau zu dem eigentlichen Grundbau des rein materiell fortschreitenden Geschehens. Aber ganz besonders wichtig ist die Erkenntnis der echten Katholizität, der Katholizität von Marx und Engels. Das ist vor allen Dingen wichtig, daß man in diesen Bestrebungen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts die echte, wahre Fortsetzung desjenigen sieht, was mit Bezug auf die Abschaffung des Geistes geschehen ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":223,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/175/1917-03-27/p023"}],"english":["GA 175/1917-03-27/p022"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":223,"en_words":195,"ratio":0.87,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6812,"original_word_count":7035,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"A. H. 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