{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 175/1917-04-10/p027","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"There is a very fine passage in the writings of the Church Father Tertullian[^3] at the turn of the second century, that touches upon this problem. He writes that he himself had seen the pulpits of the Apostles from which their successors had read aloud the epistles that were still in the Apostles’ handwriting. Whilst these epistles were being read, Tertullian tells us, the assembly of the faithful seemed to hear once again the living voices of the Apostles and when they examined the epistles, the features of the Apostles seemed to rise up before them. For those who investigate these matters clairvoyantly, these are not empty words. As they sat before the pulpit the faithful felt that they detected in the timbre of the voices of the Apostles’ successors the voices of the Apostles themselves and that from the handwriting of the Apostles they were able to picture the actual features of the Apostles. Thus, at the beginning of the third century, people were still able to evoke a living image of the Apostles and, metaphorically speaking, to hear their voices. And Clement I who occupied the Papal See from A.D. 92 to 101 also knew personally those pupils of the Apostles who had seen Christ Jesus. At this time, therefore, a continuous tradition was already in existence. And in this passage from Tertullian we catch an echo of something that can be investigated clairvoyantly. Those pupils of the Apostles who listened to the Apostles could detect from the tone and modulation of their voice the manner in which Christ Jesus spoke. This is something of great importance. We must bear in mind this tone of voice, this peculiar timbre characteristic of Christ's speech if we are to understand why those who heard Him spoke of the magic power that lay in His words. When He spoke, something akin to an elemental force gripped His listeners. His words possessed an elemental power that had never been known before. How is one to account for this?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Christ's Cosmic Mission and the Transformation of Faith","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Es saßen die Gläubigen vor diesen Lehrstühlen so, daß sie aus dem Timbre der Stimme der Nachfolger der Apostel den Klang der Stimme der Apostel heraushörten, und daß sie aus der Handschrift sich Vorstellungen machen konnten über die Gestalten der Apostel. So daß man noch, als das dritte Jahrhundert begann, auch ganz äußerlich lebendig machen konnte die Gestalten der Apostel und in übertragener Bedeutung ihre Stimmen hören konnte. Und noch Clemens I., der römische Papst, der von 92 bis 101 den päpstlichen Stuhl innehatte, der kannte selber noch Apostelschüler, kannte solche, die den Christus Jesus noch gesehen haben. Wir haben schon eine fortlaufende Tradition in dieser Zeit! Und durch diese Stelle klingt etwas durch, was man wiederum okkult nachprüfen kann. Diejenigen, die als Apostelschüler die Apostel anhörten, hörten aus dem Klang der Worte die Art heraus, wie der Ton war, in dem der Christus Jesus sprach. Und das ist etwas ungeheuer Bedeutsames. Denn man muß vor allen Dingen reflektieren auf diesen Klang, auf dieses ganze eigentümliche Wesen, das in dem Sprechen des Christus Jesus war, wenn man einsehen will, warum die Zuhörer davon sagten, daß eine besondere Zauberkraft seinen Worten innewohnte. Es war etwas wie elementare Gewalt, was die Zuhörer ergriff, etwas von einer so elementaren Gewalt der Worte, wie das sonst nicht der Fall war bei irgendeinem anderen. Aber warum das? Warum denn eigentlich das?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":328,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/175/1917-04-10/p029"}],"english":["GA 175/1917-04-10/p027"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":328,"en_words":336,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.99,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8744,"original_word_count":8870,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"A. H. 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