{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 176/1917-07-03/p030","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The other question which Franz Brentano wanted to answer was What is the good? Just as the external physical object can become truth or reality for man only if it acts on his physical and etheric bodies, so must what becomes an impulse towards good or evil influence man's *I* and astral body. In the *I* and astral body it does not as yet become formulated into concept, into mental picture; for that to happen it must be reflected in the physical and etheric bodies. We have mental pictures of good and evil only when what is formless in the *I* and astral body is mirrored in the physical and ether bodies. However, what expresses itself externally as good or evil stems from what occurs in the *I* and astral body. Someone who does not recognize the *I* and astral body can know nothing about where in man the impulse to good or evil is active. All he can say is that good is what is rightly loved; but love occurs in the astral body. Only by investigating what actually happens in the astral body and I is it possible to attain concrete insight into good and evil. At the present stage of evolution the *I* only brings to expression what lives in the astral body as instincts and emotions. As you know, the human “I” is as yet not very far in its development. The astral body is further, but man is more conscious of what occurs in his *I* than he is of his astral body. As a consequence man is not very conscious of moral impulses, or, put differently, he does not benefit from them unless the astral impulses enter his consciousness. As far as the man of today is concerned, the original, primordial moral impetus is situated in his astral body, just as the forces of truth are situated in his ether body. Through his astral body man is connected with the spiritual world, and in that world are the impulses of good. In the spiritual world also holds sway what for man is good and evil; but we only know its reflection in the ether and physical bodies.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture V","site_heading":"Franz Brentano's Struggle: Truth, Goodness, and Spiritual Science","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Aber die unmittelbare Wirkung, die sich äußert im Guten und Bösen, geschieht im Ich und Astralleib. Daher weiß derjenige, der ein Ich und einen Astralleib nicht anerkennt, überhaupt nicht, wo der Impuls des Guten oder Bösen im Menschen wirkt. Er kann also nur das Wort hinsetzen: Das Gute ist dasjenige, das in der richtigen Weise geliebt wird. Liebe ist aber etwas, was im Astralleibe sich vollzieht. Das Konkrete, das Reale hat man nur, wenn man dasjenige untersucht, was im menschlichen Astralleib und im Ich sich vollzieht. Nun, das Ich des Menschen ist in der gegenwärtigen Entwickelung so, daß es nur zeigt, wie dasjenige, was im Astralleibe lebt, in Trieben, in Affekten zum Ausdruck kommt. Das Ich des Menschen ist, wie Sie wissen, nicht sehr weit in seiner Entwickelung; der Astralleib ist weiter. Aber der Astralleib kommt dem Menschen nicht so zum Bewußtsein wie das, was in seinem Ich vorgeht. Daher kommen die sittlichen Impulse auch dem Menschen so wenig zum Bewußtsein, beziehungsweise es hilft das Bewußtsein nicht viel, wenn nicht die astralischen Impulse da sind; so daß für den gegenwärtigen Menschen die sittlichen Urimpulse eigentlich im Astralleibe sitzen, so wie die Wahrheitskräfte im Ätherleibe sitzen. Durch den Astralleib hängt der Mensch zusammen mit der geistigen Welt; und in der geistigen Welt sind die Impulse des Guten. In der geistigen Welt spielt sich auch dasjenige ab, was des Menschen Gutes und Böses ist. Was wir von diesen wissen, ist nur die Spiegelung im Ätherleibe und physischen Leibe.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":362,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/176/1917-07-03/p025"}],"english":["GA 176/1917-07-03/p030"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":362,"en_words":363,"ratio":1.0,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8951,"original_word_count":9212,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Rita Stebbing","identified_edition":"AP1987","book_title":"Aspects of Human Evolution","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA176/English/AP1987/19170703p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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