{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 176/1917-08-14/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Many secrets are connected with an understanding of the Mystery of Golgotha. People often ask: How can I find a relationship to Christ? Certainly it is a question that is justified. But anyone with insight will know that it is a question that cannot be answered just like that. Let me make a comparison: we see objects by means of our eyes, but the eyes we do not see. For the eyes to be able to see they must be unable to see themselves. They see mirror images but not themselves. That which does the seeing cannot itself be seen. Since the Mystery of Golgotha man must see the spiritual world through the impulse coming from Christ just as he sees external colors through his eyes. We do not see the eyes through which the colors, etc. are seen, nor do we see the Christ impulse through which we see the spiritual world. This is why the Mystery of Golgotha is veiled in mystery and the history of the event is also veiled. Since the Mystery of Golgotha the historical event associated with it cannot be discovered by historic means. To seek for Christ historically like any other event in history would be like trying to induce the eye to see itself. It is inherent in the Mystery of Golgotha that Christ Jesus cannot be found like Plato, Socrates or any other historical personality, through historical documents. It lies in its very nature that accounts of it are *not* historical, they were given by human beings who were inspired. Accounts of the Mystery of Golgotha can always be proved not to be historical records in the usual sense. We would become spiritually ill in the course of human evolution in the moment it became possible to include the Mystery of Golgotha among other historical events. Nor in that case would we be able to see it rightly; if we saw it historically it would be like an injured eye seeing itself. A healthy eye sees objects but not itself. If a chip has become embedded in the eye it will see a dark space before it and begin to perceive itself; but that is abnormal perception. Similarly an abnormal perception of the Mystery of Golgotha would come about if it did not have an aspect which externally is imperceptible and therefore enables man to perceive spiritually. This is a secret connected with the Mystery of Golgotha. The remarkable thing is that this strange situation did not exist for man before the Mystery of Golgotha. In ancient times before Christ had descended to the earth man knew, through his atavistic clairvoyance, that Christ was there above in the spiritual world and that He would come. Hence there is remarkable prophetic evidence which shows there were human beings who were conscious, through direct personal experience, of the Christ who was to come. It is a paradox that man could know of Christ as long as He had not yet come to the earth. From the moment He had come man could no longer know of Him in the same way. Just as one experiences the eye when one perceives, so the Christ-event had to be experienced in the time after the Mystery of Golgotha, and not known historically.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"3. 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Der Mensch in der Zeit nach dem Mysterium von Golgatha aber muß die geistigen Welten sehen durch den Christus-Impuls, wie wir die äußeren Farben und so weiter durch das Auge sehen. Wie wir aber das Auge nicht selber sehen, so sehen wir auch den Christus-Impuls nicht, weil wir durch ihn die geistige Welt sehen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":161,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/176/1917-08-14/p016"},{"locus":"GA 176/1917-08-14/p017","passage_number":17,"text":"Damit hängt es zusammen, daß das Mysterium von Golgatha in Geheimnis gehüllt ist, auch historisch in Geheimnis gehüllt. Es sollte dasjenige historische Ereignis für die Nachwelt des Mysteriums von Golgatha werden, das nicht mit historischen Mitteln gefunden werden kann. Das Christus-Leben so in der Geschichte zu suchen, wie man ein anderes historisches Ereignis sucht, das käme ganz dem Triebe gleich, das Auge zu veranlassen, daß es das Auge selbst sähe. Es liegt in der Wesenheit des Mysteriums von Golgatha, daß der Christus Jesus nicht, wie Sokrates, Plato oder eine andere historische Persönlichkeit durch Dokumente gefunden werden kann, wie sonst historische Dokumente sind. Es liegt in der Wesenheit des Mysteriums von Golgatha, daß die Aufzeichnungen über dasselbe nicht historische sind, sondern daß es Aufzeichnungen inspirierter Menschen sind, von denen man immer mit historischen Mitteln den Beweis erbringen kann, sie seien keine eigentlichen historischen Dokumente. Wir würden in der menschheitlichen Entwickelung in dem Augenblicke geistig krank werden, wo das Mysterium von Golgatha in die Reihe der gewöhnlichen historischen Ereignisse eingereiht werden könnte. Wir würden es dann zwar auch noch nicht in der richtigen Weise sehen, aber wir würden es gleichsam so historisch wahrnehmen, wie wir das Auge wahrnehmen, wenn wir es verletzt haben. Das gesunde Auge sieht die Dinge, sieht nicht sich selbst. Hat das Auge einen Splitter in sich, der da bleibend ist, so sieht es einen schwarzen Raum vor sich und fängt an, sich selbst wahrzunehmen; aber das ist ein krankhaftes Wahrnehmen. So würde ein krankhaftes Wahrnehmen des Mysteriums von Golgatha eintreten, wenn der Mensch nicht in diesem Mysterium von Golgatha etwas hätte, was nicht wahrgenommen werden kann; wodurch man wahrnimmt, das hängt zusammen mit dem Geheimnis von Golgatha. Und das Merkwürdige ist das Folgende: Diese eigentümliche Lage wurde für den Menschen erst durch den Eintritt des Mysteriums von Golgatha gebracht. Im alten atavistischen Hellsehen haben die Menschen, solange der Christus oben in der geistigen Welt war, solange er nicht heruntergestiegen war, gewußt: Er ist da, und Er wird kommen. Daher finden wir merkwürdigerweise ein Bewußtsein von dem kommenden Christus aus unmittelbarer, eigener Erfahrung, wie jede andere Erfahrung ist, in der Prophetie. So lange konnten die Menschen von dem Christus wissen, als er, paradox ausgedrückt, noch nicht gekommen war. In dem Augenblicke aber, als er gekommen war, konnten sie nicht mehr auf dieselbe Weise von ihm wissen. Wie man das Auge erlebt, indem man sieht, so mußte unmittelbar in der Zeit nach dem Mysterium von Golgatha das Christus-Ereignis erlebt werden, nicht historisch gewußt werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":414,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/176/1917-08-14/p017"}],"english":["GA 176/1917-08-14/p015"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":575,"en_words":546,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.94,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5540,"original_word_count":5878,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Rita Stebbing","identified_edition":"AP1985","book_title":"The Karma of Materialism","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA176/English/AP1985/19170814p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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