{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 177/1917-10-13/p012","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Those are the achievements of abstract thinking when it is addressing itself to reality. And we have to draw people's attention to how horrific this is, for they do not feel it on their own. We can only be in constant amazement at how these things escape attention and fail to give much cause for thought. Fundamentally speaking, such ideas are part of the present-day desire for ideologies. This has given rise to the most abstract of abstract ideas which, however, can only be applied to the dead, inorganic mineral world. If philosophers apply such ideas not only to the sphere of life, but also to that of the soul and spirit, it is only to be expected that they come to this kind of conclusion. In the realm of dead matter, human beings do, of course, have to apply the principle: ‘What are so and so many hundredweight of material compared to what will be the end result?’ It would be impossible to do any building, for instance, if we were obliged to leave everything untouched. Yet we must not apply to human life what applies only in the lifeless, inorganic world. The concepts developed in modern science apply only to the inorganic world, but people are all the time applying them elsewhere, and the problem is that no one notices. Opinions of the kind that the war should not be brought to an end until the above-mentioned prospect is there, are saying exactly what the philosopher put so brutally, although it would seem to him that he put it in a very superior way. Others simply feel embarrassed about saying such things, but the philosopher hides the brutality behind beautiful words. Yes, he puts things in a very superior way, juggling with ideas like eternity and temporality, the human being forever evolving, the transient, temporal reality of so and so many tons of organic matter; but he ignores the fact that eternity, infinity, lives in every human being, and that every single human being is worth as much as the whole inorganic world taken together!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. Abstraction and Reality","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-10-13","location":null,"word_count":347,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/177/1917-10-13/p012","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Anna R. 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Man muß heute den Menschen erst darauf aufmerksam machen, wie schauderhaft so etwas ist, wenn er es empfinden soll. Und man muß sich immer wieder nur wundern, daß diese Dinge eigentlich an der Menschheit vorbeigehen, ohne daß sie sich viel Gedanken darüber macht. Natürlich ist im Grunde genommen ein solcher Gedanke aus dem Weltanschauungsstreben der Gegenwart herausgeholt. Denn, wozu hat es dieses Weltanschauungsstreben gebracht? Eben zu den allerabstraktesten Begriffen; die sind aber nur auf das Tote anwendbar, auf das Mineralische, auf das Unorganische. Wenn nun der Philosoph kommt und wendet das, was nur auf das Tote anzuwenden ist, nicht nur auf das Lebendige, sondern sogar auf das Geistig-Seelische an, so ist es ganz natürlich, daß er zu solchen Dingen kommt. Denn gegenüber dem Toten muß ja der Mensch fortwährend nach dem Grundsatz handeln: Was ist schließlich so und so viel Zentner Substanz gegenüber dem, was man aus der Sache macht? - Man könnte nicht bauen, wenn einem die Verpflichtung auferlegt wäre, gegenüber jedem toten Stein das Bestandsrecht geltend zu machen; selbstverständlich, man könnte das nicht. Aber man darf eben nicht auf das Menschenleben übertragen, was nur für das Unorganische, für das Leblose gilt. Und nur für das Unorganische, für das Leblose gelten die Begriffe, die sich die Naturwissenschaft heute herausgebildet hat. Es wird aber heute fortwährend übertragen, man merkt es nur nicht. Und solche Urteile, die immer wieder nach der Richtung gehen, daß man zu einem Ende dieses Krieges nicht kommen soll, bevor die schon charakterisierte Aussicht vorhanden ist, solche Urteile schließen nichts anderes ein als das, was der Philosoph nur in einer brutalen, aber wie ihm scheint außerordentlich erhabenen Redeweise zum Ausdruck gebracht hat; nur daß die andern sich schämen, so zu reden wie der Philosoph, weil der Philosoph die Brutalität hinter der Schönheit der Worte verbirgt. Er sagt natürlich allerlei sehr Erhabenes, indem er jongliert mit den Begriffen Ewigkeit und Zeitlichkeit, ewiges menschliches Werden, vergängliches zeitliches Sein von so und so viel Tonnen organischer Substanz, aber nicht achtend der Tatsache, daß in jedem einzelnen Menschen die Ewigkeit, die Unendlichkeit lebt und daß jeder einzelne Mensch so viel wert ist wie die ganze unorganische Welt zusammen!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":372,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/177/1917-10-13/p010"}],"english":["GA 177/1917-10-13/p012"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":372,"en_words":347,"ratio":0.93,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6747,"original_word_count":6463,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Anna R. 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