{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 177/1917-10-13/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"These things also provide the background to the forms we are now seeking to develop here on this hill. For art, too, has gradually been caught up in an ideology which is without weight and without reality. We have to come to the true nature of things again, and this is only possible if we come to the spirit. We therefore need different forms from those one generally sees in the world of art today. In other words, our age must once again become creative and do so out of the spirit. This goes against the grain with many people today. But try and understand the enormous extent to which our whole ideology has gradually entered more and more into the lifeless sphere, because it has only been considering that sphere. Look at the buildings and at the other works of art produced in the nineteenth century. Really, all one gets is old styles rehashed over and over again. People have built in the classical style, the Renaissance and the Gothic styles—always something which is no longer alive. They have not been able to work with the elements which live in the present. This is what we must achieve; it will create a completely new spirit. It will involve many sacrifices. But[^2] which has new forms created out of the concrete itself, is a pioneering effort. And it matters not only that these forms have been thought, but also that the opportunity was made to produce such a building. These things must be considered and given their full weight, otherwise there can be no comprehension of what we intend to create on this hill. The nature of the whole is such that the forms now coming into existence here contradict and are in utter conflict with the forms created in the rest of the world today.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. 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Aber machen Sie sich nur klar, in welch starkem Maße unsere ganze Weltauffassung nach und nach in das Tote hineingekommen ist, indem sie auch nur noch mit dem Toten gearbeitet hat. Sehen Sie sich einmal die Bauten, und sehen Sie sich schließlich die andern «Kunstwerke» des 19. Jahrhunderts an: Was sind sie schließlich, als ein immer wieder und wieder Aufwärmen alter Baustile und dergleichen. Man hat im antiken, im Renaissance-, im gotischen Stile gebaut, das heißt immer in etwas Abgestorbenem. Man ist nicht zum Ergreifen des unmittelbar Lebendigen gekommen. Dazu muß man wieder kommen. Das wird einen ganz neuen Geist bilden. Dazu sind schon einzelne Opfer notwendig, die auch reichlich gebracht werden müssen. Aber so etwas, wie das da draußen stehende Haus, das aus dem Betonmaterial heraus mit neuen Formen geschaffen worden ist, ist eine Pionierarbeit. Und nicht allein die Tatsache, daß diese Formen gedacht worden sind, kommt in Betracht, sondern die Tatsache, daß die Möglichkeit herbeigeführt worden ist, so etwas einmal in die Welt hineinzustellen, kommt schon in Betracht. Diese Dinge muß man ins Auge fassen in ihrer ganzen Gewichtigkeit, sonst wird man auch nicht verstehen, was hier auf diesem Hügel geschaffen werden soll. Der ganzen Natur der Sache nach muß ja das, was auf diesem Hügel geschaffen wird, in Widerspruch und in Widerstreit stehen mit dem, was in der übrigen Welt heute geschaffen wird.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":324,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/177/1917-10-13/p011"}],"english":["GA 177/1917-10-13/p013"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":324,"en_words":306,"ratio":0.94,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6747,"original_word_count":6463,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Anna R. 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