{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 177/1917-10-13/p021","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"How can it happen that someone may be erudite and a real scholar and nevertheless build a whole system on a completely inappropriate idea? Well, you see, the reason is that the analogy created by Kjellen is correct. You will now say that you no longer know which way to turn; first I tell you the analogy is utterly inappropriate and then I tell you it is correct. Well, in saying that it is correct I meant that it can certainly be made; what matters, however, is what we are comparing. You always have two things in an analogy, in Kjellen's case the State and the organism. Things must always be presented in accord with their true nature. The State exists, and the organism, too, exists. Neither of them can be wrong—only the way they are brought together is wrong. The point is that what is happening on earth can certainly be compared to an organism. The political events on earth can be compared to an organism; but we must not compare the State to an organism. If we compare the State to an organism, this makes individual human beings into cells, which is simply nonsense, for it will get us nowhere. It is, however, possible to compare political and social life on earth to an organism, but it is the whole earth which must be compared to the organism. As soon as we compare the whole earth, that is human events all over the earth, to an organism, and the different States—not the people—to different kinds of cells, the analogy is true and it is valid.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. Abstraction and Reality","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-10-13","location":null,"word_count":267,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/177/1917-10-13/p021","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Anna R. Meuss","identified_edition":"RSP1993","book_title":"The Fall of the Spirits of Darkness","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA177/English/RSP1993/19171013p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wenn man vergleicht, handelt es sich ja immer um zwei Dinge, wie im Falle von Kjellén: um den Staat und um den Organismus. Eine Sache muß ja immer stimmen für sich. Der Staat auf der einen Seite ist da, der Organismus auf der andern Seite ist da. Beides kann ja nicht falsch sein; nur das Zusammenbringen ist falsch. Es handelt sich nämlich darum, daß man wirklich dasjenige, was auf der Erde geschieht, schon mit einem Organismus vergleichen kann. Man kann das politische Geschehen auf der Erde mit einem Organismus vergleichen; nur darf man den Staat nicht mit einem Organismus vergleichen. Vergleicht man den Staat mit dem Organismus, in dem die einzelnen Menschen Zellen sind, so kommt ein völliger Nonsens heraus. Das ist einfach Unsinn, denn da kommt man auf gar nichts. Aber man kann das politische, soziale Leben der Erde mit einem Organismus vergleichen, nur muß man dann die ganze Erde mit einem Organismus vergleichen. Sobald man die ganze Erde, das heißt das Menschengeschehen über die ganze Erde hin, mit dem Organismus vergleicht und die einzelnen Staaten - nicht die Menschen, sondern die einzelnen Staaten - mit verschieden geformten Zellen, dann ist der Vergleich richtig, dann ist es ein gültiger Vergleich.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":312,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/177/1917-10-13/p019"}],"english":["GA 177/1917-10-13/p021"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":312,"en_words":267,"ratio":0.86,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6747,"original_word_count":6463,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Anna R. 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