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We must be clear about this: the spiritual threads between the souls of the dead and those of us who are bound to them are not ruptured by death; they remain, are even closer, after death than they were here on earth. What I have said must be accepted as a serious, significant truth.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"10. 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Denn darüber müssen wir uns nur klar sein: die geistigen Fäden zwischen den toten Seelen und uns selber, die mit ihnen verbunden waren, die werden durch den Tod nicht abgerissen, die bleiben, sind sogar viel inniger nach dem Tode, als sie hier gewesen sind. 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