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You must not be misled into believing that these initiates are of the foolish opinion that there is no spirit or that the human being does not have a soul that can live independently of the body. You can be confident that one who has been truly initiated in the spiritual world would never surrender himself to the foolishness of believing in mere matter. There are many, however, who have a certain interest in encouraging the dissemination of materialism and who make all sorts of arrangements so that a large proportion of human beings believe only in materialism and are totally under its influence. There are brotherhoods that have at their head initiates who have exactly this interest in cultivating materialism and disseminating it. These materialists are well served when there is constant talk that materialism has already been overcome, for it is possible to further some causes by using words with antithetical meaning. 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Picture to yourself that brotherhoods are established that clearly know this, that are thoroughly familiar with these circumstances. These brotherhoods prepare certain human souls so that they remain in the realm of the material. If these brotherhoods then arrange—which is quite possible through their infamous power—that these souls come after death into the region of the power-sphere of their brotherhood, then this brotherhood grows to tremendous strength. These materialists, therefore, are not materialists because they do not believe in the spirit—these initiate materialists are not so silly; they know full well the spirit's position. They induce souls to remain with matter even after death, however, in order to make use of such souls for their own purposes. From these brotherhoods, a clientele of souls is thus produced who remain within the realm of the earth. These souls of the dead have within them forces that can be guided in the most diverse ways, with which one can bring about a variety of things and by means of which one can come to special manipulations of power in relation to those who have not been initiated in these things.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":282,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/178/1917-11-18/p015","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Gilbert Church and Alice Wulsin","identified_edition":null,"book_title":"The Reappearance of Christ in the Etheric","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/ReapChrist/19171118p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 178/1917-11-18/p015"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"high","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. 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Es gibt heute verführte Materialisten, die glauben, daß das materielle Leben das einzige sei; aber es gibt auch Eingeweihte, die Materialisten sind und die durch Brüderschaften materialistische Lehren verbreiten lassen. Von diesen Eingeweihten dürfen Sie nicht glauben, daß sie etwa auf dem albernen Standpunkte stehen, daß es keinen Geist gibt, oder daß der Mensch nicht eine Seele hat, die von dem Leibe unabhängig sein kann und ohne ihn leben kann. Sie können getrost annehmen, daß derjenige, der in die geistige Welt wirklich eingeweiht ist, sich nie der Albernheit hingibt, an die bloße Materie zu glauben. Aber es gibt viele, welche in einer gewissen Weise ein Interesse daran haben, den Materialismus verbreiten zu lassen, und die allerlei Veranstaltungen treffen, damit ein großer Teil der Menschen an den Materialismus allein glaubt und ganz und gar unter dem Einfluß des Materialismus steht. Nun gibt es Brüderschaften, welche an ihrer Spitze Eingeweihte haben, die eben ein solches Interesse haben, den Materialismus zu pflegen, zu verbreiten. Diesen Materialisten dient es sehr gut, wenn immerfort davon geredet wird, daß der Materialismus eigentlich schon überwunden sei. Denn man kann auch irgendeine Sache mit den entgegengesetzten Worten anstreben; die Verfahrungsweisen sind oftmals recht komplizierte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":230,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/178/1917-11-18/p014"},{"locus":"GA 178/1917-11-18/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Was wollen nun solche Eingeweihte, welche eigentlich ganz gut wissen, daß die Menschenseele ein rein: spirituelles Wesen ist, ein spirituelles Wesen, ganz selbständig gegenüber der Leiblichkeit, und die dennoch die materialistische Gesinnung der Menschen hegen und pflegen? Diese Eingeweihten wollen, daß möglichst viele Seelen da seien, welche hier zwischen Geburt und Tod nur materialistische Begriffe aufnehmen. Dadurch werden diese Seelen präpariert, in der Erdensphäre zu bleiben. Sie werden gewissermaßen in der Erdensphäre gehalten. Und nun denken Sie sich, daß Brüderschaften eingerichtet werden, die das genau wissen, die jene Verhältnisse gut kennen. Diese Brüderschaften präparieren dadurch gewisse Menschenseelen so, daß diese Menschenseelen nach dem T'oode im Reiche des Materiellen verbleiben. Wenn diese Brüderschaften dann — was möglicherweise in ihrer verruchten Macht liegt — die Veranstaltung treffen, daß diese Seelen nach dem Tode in den Bereich der Machtsphäre ihrer Brüderschaft kommen, dann wächst dieser Brüderschaft dadurch eine ungeheure Macht zu. Also diese Materialisten sind nicht Materialisten, weil sie nicht an den Geist glauben, so töricht sind diese Eingeweihten-Materialisten nicht, die wissen ganz gut, wie es um den Geist steht; aber sie veranlassen die Seelen, bei der Materie auch nach dem Tode zu bleiben, um sich solcher Seelen zu ihrem Zwecke bedienen zu können. Also wird von solchen Brüderschaften eine Klientel geschaffen von Totenseelen, die im Bereiche der Erde verbleiben. Diese Totenseelen, die haben in sich Kräfte, die in der verschiedensten Weise gelenkt werden können, mit denen man Verschiedenes bewirken kann, wodurch man gegenüber denen, die in diese Dinge nicht eingeweiht sind, zu ganz besonderen Machtentfaltungen kommen kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":255,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/178/1917-11-18/p015"},{"locus":"GA 178/1917-11-18/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"Das ist einfach eine Veranstaltung gewisser Brüderschaften. Und in dieser Sache sieht nur derjenige klar, der sich keine Finsternis und nichts Nebuloses vormachen läßt; der sich nicht vormachen läßt, daß es solche Brüderschaften entweder gar nicht gibt, oder daß ihre Dinge harmlos sind. Sie sind ganz und gar nicht harmlos, sie sind sehr harmvoll; die Menschen sollen im Materialismus noch immer weiter und weiter schreiten. Sie sollen nach dem Sinne solcher Eingeweihter glauben, daß es zwar geistige Kräfte gibt, aber daß diese geistigen Kräfte nichts anderes sind als auch gewisse Naturkräfte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":91,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/178/1917-11-18/p016"}],"beads":[{"from":[14],"to":[14],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[15],"to":[15],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[16],"to":[16],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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